Suspension system question
EDIT: This is wrong, don't listen to this guy. LOL 
The rears are struts too. You normally think of struts as having the spring mounted on them, but that's not the criteria used to determine the name.
A strut carries lateral and longitudinal loads, as opposed to only vertical loads in the case of a shock. If you remove a shock from the suspension, it would work perfectly fine except for the bouncing after a bump. If you remove the strut and try to drive the car, the wheel will not be located properly and would wobble around wildly. In order for ours to be shocks they'd have to have upper control arms and we don't. The upper mounting of the strut and the fact that it doesn't flex ensures that the wheel/hub only moves straight up and down.
Very minor point that doesn't really matter in this context, but I'm a little bit anal when it comes to words. Feel free to throw it back in my face the next time I use the word tonne.
The rears are struts too. You normally think of struts as having the spring mounted on them, but that's not the criteria used to determine the name.
A strut carries lateral and longitudinal loads, as opposed to only vertical loads in the case of a shock. If you remove a shock from the suspension, it would work perfectly fine except for the bouncing after a bump. If you remove the strut and try to drive the car, the wheel will not be located properly and would wobble around wildly. In order for ours to be shocks they'd have to have upper control arms and we don't. The upper mounting of the strut and the fact that it doesn't flex ensures that the wheel/hub only moves straight up and down.
Very minor point that doesn't really matter in this context, but I'm a little bit anal when it comes to words. Feel free to throw it back in my face the next time I use the word tonne.
Last edited by Woodie on Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:27 am, edited 1 time in total.
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms
Should be a convenience store, not a government agency
Should be a convenience store, not a government agency
OK, let's start the friendly debate. From the Suzuki service manual:
2010 SUSPENSION
Rear Suspension - Kizashi
GENERAL DESCRIPTION
REAR SUSPENSION SYSTEM DESCRIPTION
Rear suspension system is of a multi-link suspension type consisting of a rear suspension-frame (1), upper arms (2), lower arms (3), control rods (4), trailing arms (5), suspension knuckles (6), frame front bars (7), shock absorber assemblies (8), coil springs (9) and rear stabilizer bars (10).
I could include the graphic showing the suspension. However, I don't see how the shock is a structural part of the suspension. The geometry would not change if it was removed. At least not as far as I can see.
2010 SUSPENSION
Rear Suspension - Kizashi
GENERAL DESCRIPTION
REAR SUSPENSION SYSTEM DESCRIPTION
Rear suspension system is of a multi-link suspension type consisting of a rear suspension-frame (1), upper arms (2), lower arms (3), control rods (4), trailing arms (5), suspension knuckles (6), frame front bars (7), shock absorber assemblies (8), coil springs (9) and rear stabilizer bars (10).
I could include the graphic showing the suspension. However, I don't see how the shock is a structural part of the suspension. The geometry would not change if it was removed. At least not as far as I can see.
2011 Kizashi SLS CVT (silver)
2005 Honda Odyssey
Priors:
2009 Suzuki SX4 Cross AWD 5-speed Tech package (vapor metallic blue)
2005 Honda Odyssey
Priors:
2009 Suzuki SX4 Cross AWD 5-speed Tech package (vapor metallic blue)
It's a quite common issue with the Kizashi due to the rear bump stopper design that promotes corrosion therefore premature rear shock failure. Make sure to get the rear shocks replaced with the proper "countermeasure" bump stoppers.dmitche wrote:Thank you! Found out today the rear shocks are done.
2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport GTS 6MT (Black)
Ooops, looks as if you may have been right KuroNekko. Stuck my nose in there for no reason. Just looked at the parts diagram and it does kinda look as if it's a shock, but it's a bad diagram for this purpose. It also makes it look as if the spring is on the shock and I'm certain that's not the case.
LPSISRL, I'd like to see that graphic you're referring to.
LPSISRL, I'd like to see that graphic you're referring to.
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms
Should be a convenience store, not a government agency
Should be a convenience store, not a government agency
Nope, not going to be any debate, more of a capitulation. I was just stone wrong. Looked at the TSB for the rear bump stops and it had a better drawing. Hasn't been that long ago that I changed those shocks myself, you'd think I would remember the setup better.LPSISRL wrote:OK, let's start the friendly debate. suspension.
Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms
Should be a convenience store, not a government agency
Should be a convenience store, not a government agency
