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 #49140  by Mokachino
 Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:01 am
I recently replaced the clutch in my Kizashi and as such I had the battery disconnected for a few days. Now that I've hooked it all back up the car won't start. It tried to start about 3 times and then I can only assume the immobilizer has activated and now I can't start the car at all. The car is stuck 2 hours away from a Suzuki Dealer.

Do any of you guys know how to unlock the fob so that my stupid car will start again? I've got a spare fob at home, not sure if they are all different or if the 2nd one might work.
 #49143  by Ronzuki
 Thu Apr 11, 2019 1:55 pm
When you say "It tried to start 3x" are you saying it cranked but did not fire? Or did it crank, fire and die right away? You further state "I can't start the car at all"... what exactly does that mean? Crank, no crank? Fire, no fire? Sputter, then die?

Is it possible that something electrical other than the battery was disconnected/disturbed and not properly reconnected in the engine bay when the clutch was replaced? Give me an "old fashioned key" any day...
 #49145  by old tech
 Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:30 pm
Im taking it as if you didnt hear any starter motor turning . Will crankshaft turn clockwise and counterclockwise using a wrench? If neither direction , something bound up in clutch asm., If it only turns counterclockwise, the alternator froze. I had one do this and because of this push button start system the starter was fed power for a set period of time even though it couldnt turn the engine. It fried the wire off between solenoid and starter motor adding insult to injury.
 #49146  by LPSISRL
 Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:58 pm
Possibly the clutch interlock switch? I'm assuming a MT requires the the clutch pedal all the way to the floor to crank.
 #49149  by Ronzuki
 Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:38 pm
old tech wrote: I had one do this and because of this push button start system the starter was fed power for a set period of time even though it couldn't turn the engine. It fried the wire off between solenoid and starter motor adding insult to injury.


Oh, that's a nice little bonus feature right there. Another fine example of perfect-world "automotive automation" not being fully thought out. Yep, simple math: no motor current sensing + no fuse or C.B. to trip = the wire IS the fuse.
Again, I'll take a simple key any day.

Any rate, lots of good ideas of things to look at for before blaming other expensive electronics.
 #49150  by Mokachino
 Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:57 pm
Sorry I should have been more descriptive, yes it was firing. It sounded like it really wanted to start however the battery was flat for being out of the car so long. We attempted it as many times as possible, it was sluggish but turning over no worries. We bought a new battery and placed that in. But now it seems to be just turning over without firing. I'm currently a ways away from the car but I'll try the other suggestions on here tomorrow when I can get down to my dads garage where it's being stored.
 #49151  by Mokachino
 Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:06 am
Update:
When we connect the battery up, everything comes on in the car. All the lights on the dash and the radio as well
 #49152  by Ronzuki
 Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:14 pm
If the FOB wasn't detected to crank the engine, the HUD would indicate that as the cause of refusing to even crank, so it and the immobilizer components are not likely the culprit, unless, there was a disturbance created in any associated wiring during the clutch replacement process. You had indicated replacing the clutch was a pain. That, to me, can mean simply gaining access to do the deed was rather cumbersome.

You have something else going on. How much disassembly was required to replace the clutch? Everything electro-mechanically tight and sound with regards to the starter's wiring?

I feel that if it cranked, fired, and ran ok before the clutch replacement, and now it doesn't after the clutch was replaced, then something was disturbed (intentionally or not) during the process. The ECM and its harness is located above the trans. Was it disconnected, moved aside, harness manipulated to make room to work, or anything of that sort?
 #49162  by Mokachino
 Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:44 am
I'll find out soon enough. Dropped the car at an extremely unfriendly Suzuki dealer to try and have the problem located. I can only hope that at $143 AUD an hour they don't take too long to work it out.
 #49165  by old tech
 Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:14 am
Hopefully its as simple as a ground wire . I dont think you have to move it but there is one right next to it on the engine block .