TPMS Issue SOLVED!!!

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frances.bradford
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I did figure out what that part meant lol, but how do I scan them ?? Is this the scan tool I keep reading about? It can't be reset without a tool?
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Woodie
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The instructions are referring to a scan tool, but it's been discovered that if you let enough air out of the tire to cause the TPMS sensor to alert, that will do it. I think the tire pressure light blinks (while in learn mode) to acknowledge a successful pairing, so just let air out until it does this, then move on to the next wheel.
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paininthenuts
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Thank God we don't have TPMS on the UK models. However many new cars do have it. This isn't for the good of the motorist, it's just so the dealer can sell their overpriced tyres
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Thanks for your help!
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Ronzuki
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paininthenuts wrote:Thank God we don't have TPMS on the UK models. However many new cars do have it. This isn't for the good of the motorist, it's just so the dealer can sell their overpriced tyres
Yeah, lucky you. I can hardly wait for the day when that damn light comes on. Actually, they became nanny-stated here as a result of owners/operators being too lazy and/or too stupid to maintain their air pressures properly. The dealers and auto manufacturers are just doing what comes naturally, profiting mightily.

Do you recall the big Ford Explorer and Firestone Tire fiasco over here mid-late 90s? What a travesty that was. Ford thought they could make a truck based SUV ride all nice and cushy by only requiring 26-28 psi in a light truck tire. I forget the actual number, but it was way too low for the vehicle type and OE tire type. Then owners were loading them up, and in many cases overloading, like they owned a cargo van and went haulin' azz down the road on 24-26psi (because they never check pressures). Well gee, guess what happened? Blown tires and dead people. Ford blamed Firestone for defective tires and a huge recall ensued for no good reason. Those tires were perfectly fine... inflated to the proper 35-36psi for normal loading as indicated on the tire's sidewall. I'd owned two sets of the supposedly 'defective' tires on ours before the media frenzy started. Did everything with that truck from daily driving the family, loading it up for vacations, hauling building materials inside to towing small trailers. Never an issue. Air pressures adjusted according to the service it was under. Never, was it set for Ford's ridiculously low recommended pressure after the first time I checked them.
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jack.wolff
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The Suzuki relearn procedure for TPMS is a PITA, to be sure. Would be a different story if the instructions were clear and/or correct. If the vehicle won't go into the relearn mode, the sensors cannot be trained to the vehicle. This is the hardest trick, it would seem! All kinds of posts abound about not being able to get the SX4 for example into reprogram mode for the sensors. We experienced this problem this morning. There is a TSB apparently for the problem, but customer understandably grew tired of waiting.

Someone had previously mentioned the Ford/Firestone problem if the late 1990s. The pressures specified by Ford for that vehicle, according to front and rear axle weights, which includes cargo capacity, is safe and accurate. Barely. If the tire falls below that 26 PSI, however, to 24 psi or less the tires become overloaded (read: underinflated); there simply isn't any safety margin built in at that pressure. 30 PSI would have been a better choice for Ford, certainly, as that provides at least 15% safety factor as far as pressure is concerned. 35 psi would provide even greater safety margin.
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jack.wolff wrote:Someone had previously mentioned the Ford/Firestone problem if the late 1990s. The pressures specified by Ford for that vehicle
And that in a nutshell is the problem. Ford specified a cushy-car-ride air pressure for a light-truck tire, fitted to a light-truck chassis. Tires that were were marked quite differently than car tires. Just because Ford specified those ridiculous pressures in no way means the pressures were correct.

And now we have to pay for mandatory TPMSs. Enjoy!
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I'm surprised that the Kizashi even cares about the positions of the TPMS sensors with respect to wheel location on the vehicle, considering there's no way to display the individual tire pressures in the instrument cluster. My Cruze has a very similar procedure to the one outlined in this thread, except the LCD display in the instrument cluster will actually show the individual tire pressures in real time. So when I do a tire rotation, all I have to do is clear the display to go into the TPMS reset mode, and then the turn signal lights up for each sensor that's ready to be set. At that point you're supposed to scan it with the tool, but you can just inflate/bleed air out of the tire until the car honks, and then you move to the next wheel closest to the next turn signal that turns on. Of course, the order is LF, RF, RR, LR. Then it beeps twice after you set the last wheel to let you know you're done.

So far, my Cruze being able to display the individual tire pressures is the only feature on it that was better engineered than LITERALLY anything else on Azumi.
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