Re: What Did You Do With Your Kizashi Today?
Posted: Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:47 am
Yes, thanks for the replies.
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For all four corners I would certainly recommend new bump stops / dust boots, particularly if you still have the flawed originals on the rear. Generic aftermarket replacements of the appropriate type should be fine, though on the rear of my car I used the revised Suzuki bump stops, as I had previously purchased a set.KuroNekko wrote:I'm glad this topic is back up because I am certain at this point of around 100K miles, I need new shocks on all four corners. Years ago, there was a discussion about OE vs. the KYB shocks and struts (dampers, collectively) and whether the various Kizashi models (FWD vs. AWD vs. Kizashi Sport vs. Kizashi) had different dampers. I recall that though Suzuki part numbers were all different for the various models for the dampers, it was inconclusive as to whether the dampers were actually any different other than part number. KYB is the OEM and they are also the only mainstream aftermarket manufacturer for the Kizashi's dampers. Since that time, it's become evident to me from other people installing them and also KYB's own cross-referencing of Suzuki OE part numbers that the KYB aftermarket dampers fit any Kizashi model. This is welcomed news given the KYB aftermarket dampers cost about 1/4 of the OE dampers.
I'm planning on buying replacements soon and doing the rears myself but taking the fronts to a professional for two main reasons. The first is that the replacement struts for the front is sold as the damper only meaning the spring must be reused. I've previously replaced struts for another car with new springs pre-installed from KYB which made the job easy but the Kizashi doesn't enjoy that kind of parts availability. We only have the damper itself available from KYB. I figured I'd have to go this route anyway given my Sport springs which are 10mm lower than the standard Kizashi. The second reason is that compressing springs is a rather dangerous task that requires specialized tools. I think I'll just have a shop swap the springs for the new struts I'll provide and then after installation, have them do an alignment job.
Thanks SRN for confirming some things about the KYB aftermarket dampers that many of us were unsure of for years.
You have any p/n's for the stut mounts/bearings? Can't select a Suzuki at all on KYB's website to obtain correct p/n.bdleonard wrote: For the fronts, I would also suggest taking a close look at the upper strut mounts (which also contain a bearing) and having them replaced if the condition appears poor, as the strut must be disassembled in order to replace them. KYB has these available in the aftermarket for the Kizashi as well.
The KYB front mounts are part number SM5805. I'm not certain what issue is happening for you, but I can look up all of the KYB parts in the KYB Americas catalog here: https://www.kyb.com/catalog/Ronzuki wrote:You have any p/n's for the stut mounts/bearings? Can't select a Suzuki at all on KYB's website to obtain correct p/n.bdleonard wrote: For the fronts, I would also suggest taking a close look at the upper strut mounts (which also contain a bearing) and having them replaced if the condition appears poor, as the strut must be disassembled in order to replace them. KYB has these available in the aftermarket for the Kizashi as well.
KuroNekko wrote:I'm glad this topic is back up because I am certain at this point of around 100K miles, I need new shocks on all four corners. Years ago, there was a discussion about OE vs. the KYB shocks and struts (dampers, collectively) and whether the various Kizashi models (FWD vs. AWD vs. Kizashi Sport vs. Kizashi) had different dampers. I recall that though Suzuki part numbers were all different for the various models for the dampers, it was inconclusive as to whether the dampers were actually any different other than part number. KYB is the OEM and they are also the only mainstream aftermarket manufacturer for the Kizashi's dampers. Since that time, it's become evident to me from other people installing them and also KYB's own cross-referencing of Suzuki OE part numbers that the KYB aftermarket dampers fit any Kizashi model. This is welcomed news given the KYB aftermarket dampers cost about 1/4 of the OE dampers.
I'm planning on buying replacements soon and doing the rears myself but taking the fronts to a professional for two main reasons. The first is that the replacement struts for the front is sold as the damper only meaning the spring must be reused. I've previously replaced struts for another car with new springs pre-installed from KYB which made the job easy but the Kizashi doesn't enjoy that kind of parts availability. We only have the damper itself available from KYB. I figured I'd have to go this route anyway given my Sport springs which are 10mm lower than the standard Kizashi. The second reason is that compressing springs is a rather dangerous task that requires specialized tools. I think I'll just have a shop swap the springs for the new struts I'll provide and then after installation, have them do an alignment job.
Thanks SRN for confirming some things about the KYB aftermarket dampers that many of us were unsure of for years.
In a standard automotive strut design (the MacPherson strut), the damper (the part that you think of as "the strut") has a perch around the center cylinder where the coil spring sits, and a mount plate on the top that attaches to the car, with the damper (piston/hydraulics) in the center. In this design, the spring is under compression between the perch on the bottom of the strut and the mounting plate on the top, even when the full strut assembly is completely removed from the vehicle.johnhenrydale wrote: I'm A bit confused - what did you mean by "have a shop swap the springs for the new struts" - aren't those separate parts of the front suspension assembly? are you also replacing springs as well as struts?
Thanks bdleonard. Typical, went about it from a different path on the site (not the catalogue) and the drop-down didn't offer Suzuki as a choice and I just bailed w/o putting forth anymore effort.bdleonard wrote:The KYB front mounts are part number SM5805. I'm not certain what issue is happening for you, but I can look up all of the KYB parts in the KYB Americas catalog here: https://www.kyb.com/catalog/Ronzuki wrote:You have any p/n's for the stut mounts/bearings? Can't select a Suzuki at all on KYB's website to obtain correct p/n.bdleonard wrote: For the fronts, I would also suggest taking a close look at the upper strut mounts (which also contain a bearing) and having them replaced if the condition appears poor, as the strut must be disassembled in order to replace them. KYB has these available in the aftermarket for the Kizashi as well.