Kizashi Does Not Like Roll Starts

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I keep the clutch petal pushed in at the stoplight 60% of the time unless I know the stoplight is what I call "A forever light" then I put in neutral. My clutch and throwout bearings have lasted for over 180,000 in the ranger before I sold it. Over 195,000 in the Corolla and still going strong. So I'm not worried about wear.

[Ronzuki]

That wears the throw out bearings and downshifting and engaging gears wears out the clutch

Not if you RPM match via throttle before releasing the clutch. I've never replaced a clutch in any of my MT road driven vehicles and down-shifted to match traffic conditions all the time. Brakes lasted a helluva lot longer as in I've rarely replaced brakes in any of those same vehicles due to worn out pads. All of the AT vehicles we've owned, although few, more brake pad replacements than in the many MT vehicles owned.

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That wears the throw out bearings and downshifting and engaging gears wears out the clutch

Not if you RPM match via throttle before releasing the clutch. I've never replaced a clutch in any of my MT road driven vehicles and down-shifted to match traffic conditions all the time. Brakes lasted a helluva lot longer as in I've rarely replaced brakes in any of those same vehicles due to worn out pads. All of the AT vehicles we've owned, although few, more brake pad replacements than in the many MT vehicles owned.

I agree

[KuroNekko]

Clutch life is similar to brake pad life in that it's very dependent on how you drive, but a huge factor is also your driving conditions. If you live in hilly areas, on a mountain, or frequently deal with heavy congestion, brake pads and clutches wear out faster for the same person vs. living in a flat rural or suburban area.

My Mazda3's clutch wore out almost exactly at 100,000 miles. However, the car already had 56,000 miles when I got it (don't know about previous owner's driving), it was my first manual car, and I drive in one of the most congested cities in America.

[bootymac]

That wears the throw out bearings and downshifting and engaging gears wears out the clutch

Not if you RPM match via throttle before releasing the clutch. I've never replaced a clutch in any of my MT road driven vehicles and down-shifted to match traffic conditions all the time. Brakes lasted a helluva lot longer as in I've rarely replaced brakes in any of those same vehicles due to worn out pads. All of the AT vehicles we've owned, although few, more brake pad replacements than in the many MT vehicles owned.

Splitting hairs now but I was differentiating clutch wear versus throw out bearing wear. There's clutch wear every time you engage a gear, but I agree that you can minimize the wear with proper rev matching.

Next on the agenda: the use of parking brakes