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Re: Steering wheel

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 2:13 am
by Ronzuki
Suzuki Factory Parts Catalog for Kizashi 2010-2012. p/n 99924-88470-003. Not likely to be easily found, I dunno. Didn't even know one existed until my Ex-dealer's service center parts guy pulled it off his reference shelf and handed it to me (we go waaay back). He has online direct access to Suzuki so he really has no need for it. A decade or so ago he pulled their factory Samurai parts book off the same shelf and let me have that one. They hadn't seen a Samurai in there in forever prior to that day. Again, he had no need for it. Those I knew existed in paper form.

Anyway, wow, there's a pile of different steering wheels. As always, nothing is simple or easy anymore. My parts book only goes to 2012, soooo, anyone's guess if the 2013s are the same as the 2012s or not. I'd guess not based upon the previous listed. ...ya ready?

10-11 S MT
10-11 S SE CVT
10 GTS SLS MT
10 GTS SLS CVT
11 SPORT MT
11 SPORT CVT
12 GTS MT
12 SE GTS CVT
12 SPORT GTS MT
12 SPORT GTS SLS CVT w/o HANDSFREE SW.
12 SPORT GTS SLS CVT w/ HANDSFREE SW.

My parts book only goes up to 2012, soooo, anyone's guess if the 2013s are the same as the 2012s or not. Possibly since they probably weren't making anymore changes since the writing was on the wall for the car's future.

Mind boggling. As I'd guessed, the airbag unit is in fact the same unit across all years/models up to, again, 2012. Wiring harnesses...fagedaboudit...6 pages. My head's spinning looking at the diagrams. Too many p/n's to count. Impossible which one(s) actually connect to the steering wheel.

This is why the parts guy always looks up my VIN when I go see him before he even asks me what I need...Suzuki site only shows him what's specifically in/for MY car. And, p/n's change over time, so my book's info can be obsolete.

Re: Steering wheel

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:06 am
by Gange
Thanks for the info mate

I think my head is about to explode

When I swaped my wife's thin sx4 wheel for a thicker swift sport one, the controls and everything just changed over without a hiccup

The base sx4 has all the wiring looms in place whether you have the controls/driving lights on the car or not.

Why the hell do they make things so complicated

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Re: Steering wheel

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:34 pm
by bdleonard
Gange wrote:Thanks for the info mate Image

I think my head is about to explode Image

When I swaped my wife's thin sx4 wheel for a thicker swift sport one, the controls and everything just changed over without a hiccup Image

The base sx4 has all the wiring looms in place whether you have the controls/driving lights on the car or not.

Why the hell do they make things so complicated Image

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This is not complicated. Put on the Kizashi steering wheel you want, with the buttons you want, and the buttons will all work with 2 exceptions: The paddle shift levers will do nothing if you have a manual transmission (obviously), the Bluetooth buttons will only work if your car has one of the Bluetooth stereos.

Variations I'm aware of, which exist in different combinations: paddle shifters, leather wrapped, cruise control, and Bluetooth. As far as I know, all of them have the stereo controls built in and use the same air bag.

Re: Steering wheel

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 3:44 pm
by golftango
bdleonard wrote:
This is not complicated. Put on the Kizashi steering wheel you want, with the buttons you want, and the buttons will all work with 2 exceptions: The paddle shift levers will do nothing if you have a manual transmission (obviously), the Bluetooth buttons will only work if your car has one of the Bluetooth stereos.

Variations I'm aware of, which exist in different combinations: paddle shifters, leather wrapped, cruise control, and Bluetooth. As far as I know, all of them have the stereo controls built in and use the same air bag.
This.

It's plug and play with the exception of BT.

If you have a CVT and want paddle shifters, get a wheel with the paddle shifters.
If you have a base MT with no Cruise, get a wheel with cruise.
If you have a plastic wheel and want a leather wrapped one, upgrade. The airbag assy will swap right over.

Re: Steering wheel

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:45 pm
by Gange
Thanks bdleonard and golftango for the info

Looks like I will find a wheel with all the controls I want on it and have it re-skinned.

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Re: Steering wheel

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:55 pm
by golftango
Here's a pic of the swapped over leather wheel on my old S (base / manual) Kizashi.

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Re: Steering wheel

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:22 am
by KansasKid
One more steering wheel type: I don't know about the GTS models, but the SLS models come with steering wheels with perforated leather at 3 & 9. It's purely cosmetic, but I think it's nice.

As for the control activation, I was wondering about that a few months ago. There was a 6MT Kizashi in my area with no cruise controls and I was worried that it would require an ECU setting or some nonsense in addition to possibly missing any additional connectors to get the cruise controls to work after swapping in the new steering wheel. Go to know that every Kizashi should be able to use any other steering wheel.