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Occupant Classification System Recall (Campaign C5)

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:02 am
by bdleonard
Just got a letter for a new recall (campaign C5) on the front passenger seat occupant sensing system for the airbag. This is separate from (though seeming prompted by further investigation of) the prior leather seat recall. It appears to apply to the full Kizashi production run. No remedy is yet identified.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2019/R ... 3-1738.PDF
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2019/R ... 3-9380.pdf
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2019/R ... 3-7175.pdf

Re: Occupant Classification System Recall (Campaign C5)

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 4:04 am
by SAEED_KIZZY
Thanks bdleonard.
I believe there is a key switch under glove box to disable passenger air bag in these cases,why airbag module disable passenger airbag when sit when sit belt is on?
stupid design?!

Re: Occupant Classification System Recall (Campaign C5)

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:46 pm
by bdleonard
SAEED_KIZZY wrote:Thanks bdleonard.
I believe there is a key switch under glove box to disable passenger air bag in these cases,why airbag module disable passenger airbag when sit when sit belt is on?
stupid design?!
When passenger air bags were made mandatory in the US in the mid 1990s, an increasing number of children sitting in the passenger seats of vehicles were killed by high speed airbag deployment during accidents. This was largely solved by the early 2000s with a switch to lower velocity propellants in the air bags, and a public safety campaign advising parents to place their children in the rear seats of cars.

However, while the issue was still prevalent in the late 1990s a US law was passed that required that a technical solution to the issue be developed and would be mandatory on all vehicles sold in the US beginning in the mid-2000s. Hence all new cars sold in the US from 2006 on must have a system such as this which disables the passenger air bag when a light individual is detected in the seat.

This article sums it up reasonably well:
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a ... m-feature/

Re: Occupant Classification System Recall (Campaign C5)

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:13 pm
by SAEED_KIZZY
bdleonard wrote:
SAEED_KIZZY wrote:Thanks bdleonard.
I believe there is a key switch under glove box to disable passenger air bag in these cases,why airbag module disable passenger airbag when sit when sit belt is on?
stupid design?!
When passenger air bags were made mandatory in the US in the mid 1990s, an increasing number of children sitting in the passenger seats of vehicles were killed by high speed airbag deployment during accidents. This was largely solved by the early 2000s with a switch to lower velocity propellants in the air bags, and a public safety campaign advising parents to place their children in the rear seats of cars.

However, while the issue was still prevalent in the late 1990s a US law was passed that required that a technical solution to the issue be developed and would be mandatory on all vehicles sold in the US beginning in the mid-2000s. Hence all new cars sold in the US from 2006 on must have a system such as this which disables the passenger air bag when a light individual is detected in the seat.

This article sums it up reasonably well:
https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a ... m-feature/
Thanks again bdleonard good to know but still stupid design by suzuki :lol: :lol:

Re: Occupant Classification System Recall (Campaign C5)

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 2:20 am
by Ronzuki
I received the notice in the mail yesterday. More fodder. This is something I complained about many years ago to the dealer and received the customary "nothing's wrong, no codes, so all is well". Even though I had a photo of my twenty-something 115 lb.-ish daughter sitting in the seat with the airbag light on. Same situation with my wife in the car as well. She roughly weighs the same. Put in a complaint online w/ the NHTSA back then and forgot about it. I'm usually alone in the car 99% of the time. I do not have leather seats, so that was a bunch of bull. Took long enough for the NNTSA to act, and then Suzuki will wait until the cars are all but dead before they 'decide' on what the corrective action is to be.