Re: It finally happened...possible CVT faiure
Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:08 pm
Thanks Old tech! I really don't have faith that this thing can be saved. Let's see.
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P0777: Pressure Control Solenoid “B” Stuck OnMarcov71 wrote:So I got codes P0777 and P1818. We were able to clear them and car drove fine but the whining was still there. Code P1818 was trying to creep back in. Hoping my mechanic cab save this CVT. ANYONE familiar with the P1818 code?
I would say that the CVT was a mistake for the Kizashi. The Kizashi is a small midsize sedan but Suzuki had higher ambitions for it and wanted to market it like a budget alternative to a FWD Sports Sedan like the Acura TSX. The CVT was a huge letdown in that regard given CVTs are really only for efficiency... on paper. They sap performance and they break easier. Given Suzuki didn't have the latest engine technology for efficiency, they had to make it up with the transmission and opted for the CVT as the Automatic. I wish they just put a conventional geared Automatic in it. It may have been less fuel efficient but a lot more reliable and robust and probably drove better too for performance. I had an automatic '98 Sidekick and never had issues with the transmission. My friend later bought it and didn't have issues with the automatic transmission either.Marcov71 wrote:Let me rephrase that, Only Kizashi CVT is a lemon. Pretty sure that the manual is bullet proof. This is my fourth Suzuki and the only one that has failed me. At 130k. It should just be breaking in! Lol
@RonzukiRonzuki wrote:OT, so what causes whining when there is absolutely no debris in the screen? That was my situation prior to its first ever fluid change at 80k miles (3 drain/fills). Perfectly clean screen and magnets had smooth, metallic grey, goo (no bits or pieces at all). Now, at almost 10k on the 'new' fluid, a faint whine is becoming perceivable.
I'm the original owner and very perceptive of changes to my vehicles be it feeling or sounds. The whine was most definitely not present when new...lest I wouldn't have bought the thing seeing how I was capitulating over the purchase because of the unknown to me slush-box (CVT). Whine of the magnitude we're discussing here is NOT normal.moojin wrote: I probably detected the sound because I'm actively trying to hear anything that might be wrong with the car especially a CVT whine. I think any other person hearing the sound would think that is how the car should sound. I don't even know how to describe it other than it is an ambient sound that becomes noticeable at certain times.
Since you posted at the end of September, has your CVT whine become louder?
My 2012 kizashi also failed last Thursday and went into limp mode. The code that I got from it is P1818 but not the other one associated with this post, at least not yet anyway. I found the service manual for the 2011(assuming this manual is valid for the 2012) which points to the stepper motor but I couldn't find anything about replacing just this part and also couldn't find this part specific to the kizashi. I haven't tried transmission fluid change suggested by old tech. Any other suggestions / ideas on where to get parts?ANYONE familiar with the P1818 code?
I had a decision point about a year ago to trade my Kizashi in because of some repair work that it needed, but I didn't want another new car payment as I had just purchased another car. I kept the Kizashi, paid too much and got it fixed. One place of reassurance was the community here and in the facebook group.Ronzuki wrote: I give credit to those preceding me who had done the research, detective work, and performed the service on their own.
I've tucked the Kiz in to the garage this week for winter (for the most part) and it's sitting at a little over 91,500 miles.
I will say, as much as I love the Kizashi, if the trans dies (or any other unlikely major problem occurs), it will become history.