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HID Kit recommendations

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 12:39 am
by ~tc~
Can anyone recommend an HID kit for the low beam?

Re: Headlights going out

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:16 am
by KuroNekko
~tc~ wrote:Can anyone recommend an HID kit for the low beam?
While I personally don't have them, many people in different forums state that Morimoto HID kits are good. Reputable sellers carry them. If I was to buy a HID kit, I'd go with these. Yes, you can get cheaper stuff on ebay, but those $30 kits tend to be crap and have issues. Yes, you can get better ones made in Germany or Japan, but expect to pay at least twice as much compared to Morimotos.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/produc ... ts_id=3893

http://www.vleds.com/hid-237/hid-system ... ystem.html

Re: HID Kit recommendations

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 5:27 am
by murcod

Re: HID Kit recommendations

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:32 am
by ~tc~
Thanks, I had seen those threads, but not many mentioned brands. Looks like your choices in H7 are the Morimoto, DDM tuning, or the cheap eBay junk.

I went with the Morimoto from theretrofitsource.com based on research from all over - appeared to be the best kit for reasonable money. They appear to be making an upgrade to the product, so it will be a few weeks before they are off back order ... Hope I don't get a ticket before then!

Re: HID Kit recommendations

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:48 am
by SamirD
In one of the older threads, there was a mention that Kizashi's in other markets possibly came with factory HIDs? Any other info on this? I'm thinking there may be a way to just import a set of headlights from another market to have the perfect HIDs.

Re: HID Kit recommendations

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 6:54 pm
by ~tc~
Yes, they do, but good luck with finding and importing them as a factory item.

Re: HID Kit recommendations

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 7:12 pm
by KuroNekko
SamirD wrote:In one of the older threads, there was a mention that Kizashi's in other markets possibly came with factory HIDs? Any other info on this? I'm thinking there may be a way to just import a set of headlights from another market to have the perfect HIDs.
Yes, European, Australian, and Asian Kizashi models were offered with factory HID in their top-trim models.
While it should theoretically be able to be installed in a North American Kizashi, keep in mind some of these factors:
- In Europe, any car with HID must have headlight washers. This is why the cars have the headlight washer covers regardless of market. However, the models with HIDs actually have washers that extend and spray. If you retrofitted the factory HID headlight in your NA spec Kizashi, you would not be able to control the washers unless you get the wiring and control button too.
- Factory HIDs in the US are required to have leveling control. The models with HIDs will have a headlight aim control dial close to the fog light button. Installing the HID headlight in a NA spec car will not give you the leveling control unless you again, have the wiring and the dash dial.
- Lastly, good luck even finding them on sale. Finding anything for the Kizashi is hard enough. OEM HID headlights from another market for a NA spec Kizashi? Good luck!

The easier way to go about getting a better beam is the change the projector inside the headlight. theretrofitsource.com sells these projectors that were designed for HID lamps. While using the correct projector will give the headlight beam a crisp cut-off and better optical performance, it requires the hassle of baking your headlights, opening them up, swapping out the projectors, and reassembling them. That's assuming you find a HID projector compatible with the Kizashi.

Quite frankly, I don't think it's worth it. The OEM projector for the halogens do just fine with HIDs. Yes, it's not as crisp as an Acura or BMW with factory HIDs in a proper HID projector, but it works good enough. It's an improvement over the halogens.

Personally, I think HID kits are just fine in any projector headlight. They are not suited for multi-reflector headlights that create too much glare for oncoming traffic and don't throw the beam well enough for the driver. However, in a projector lens, the opposite is true. I don't blind oncoming traffic and the throw is rather good.

My advice is to get an aftermarket H7 HID kit and install it in the pre-existing headlight. It's the cheapest route to vastly improve the performance and look of your headlights.

I can take more photos of my headlights if you want. I have cheap Chinese 8000k (although they look more like 6000k) HID kits that came with my car. The previous owner had them installed along with 2500k HID fog lights. The throw on these fog lights is horrible because of the multi-reflector lens of the fog lights. A LED conversion kit would be better.

Lastly, did you know that Euro Kizashis have rear fog lights? Ever wondered why there is that lamp space under the reverse lights? NA models don't have a bulb or a bulb housing, but Euro versions do. I wish we had these.
http://s206.photobucket.com/user/lev-ya ... 9.jpg.html

Re: HID Kit recommendations

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:40 pm
by SamirD
~tc~ wrote:Yes, they do, but good luck with finding and importing them as a factory item.
My uncle-in-law is in very tight with Maruti-Suzuki in India, so I can probably get anything as long as I have a part number. 8-)

Re: HID Kit recommendations

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:09 pm
by KuroNekko
SamirD wrote:
~tc~ wrote:Yes, they do, but good luck with finding and importing them as a factory item.
My uncle-in-law is in very tight with Maruti-Suzuki in India, so I can probably get anything as long as I have a part number. 8-)
A member in India has confirmed in the past that top spec Indian Kizashis have HID. However, I've heard that the Kizashi was discontinued in India due to dismal sales.

Re: HID Kit recommendations

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:11 pm
by SamirD
KuroNekko wrote:
SamirD wrote:In one of the older threads, there was a mention that Kizashi's in other markets possibly came with factory HIDs? Any other info on this? I'm thinking there may be a way to just import a set of headlights from another market to have the perfect HIDs.
Yes, European, Australian, and Asian Kizashi models were offered with factory HID in their top-trim models.
While it should theoretically be able to be installed in a North American Kizashi, keep in mind some of these factors:
- In Europe, any car with HID must have headlight washers. This is why the cars have the headlight washer covers regardless of market. However, the models with HIDs actually have washers that extend and spray. If you retrofitted the factory HID headlight in your NA spec Kizashi, you would not be able to control the washers unless you get the wiring and control button too.
- Factory HIDs in the US are required to have leveling control. The models with HIDs will have a headlight aim control dial close to the fog light button. Installing the HID headlight in a NA spec car will not give you the leveling control unless you again, have the wiring and the dash dial.
- Lastly, good luck even finding them on sale. Finding anything for the Kizashi is hard enough. OEM HID headlights from another market for a NA spec Kizashi? Good luck!

Lastly, did you know that Euro Kizashis have rear fog lights? Ever wondered why there is that lamp space under the reverse lights? NA models don't have a bulb or a bulb housing, but Euro versions do. I wish we had these.
http://s206.photobucket.com/user/lev-ya ... 9.jpg.html
With the right part numbers, anything is possible. Foldable mirrors were available on the US spec Altima in other countries like Australia (Bluebird). It took some effort, but someone sourced a set of mirrors and the switch and installed it in at USDM Altima. It definitely wasn't as hard as developing something from scratch. Plus, it has the testing behind it that OEMs need, so it's a solid mod.

I think with the right part numbers for the housing, switches and wiring harness as well as the factory wiring schematics for a car from that market, it would be quite easy for someone that has done custom stereo work. The hard part is the part numbers. My uncle-in-law should be able to get me anything I need from Suzuki Japan as long as I have these. And his technicians at his shop over there should be able to get the wiring diagrams.

I actually wouldn't change anything except maybe get better halogen bulbs if I need more light. I did this on my Altima and was quite pleased. Stock lighting systems aren't that bad if everything is working correctly. I'm mainly curious at the possibilities because if I do need to change it, I'm not going to cut any corners when I can get oem quality with some work.

It doesn't suprise me that the Euro spec Kizashi's have a fog light as a friend's imported Evo 7 had one too. Is there a special switch for it, or does it come on with the main fogs? If you want to add them to your Kizashi and have part numbers, I can have my uncle-in-law look them up. 8-)