Kizashi gaz Mileage(only AWD please) with a Full gaz tank

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SamirD wrote:
Sluggo wrote:I don't feel most people would spend the money for the Kizashi.
People thought of Suzuki as a cheap car and just wouldn't spend
30 grand for one. I think your right, too small and to expensive in peoples minds.
Exactly, especially when a land yacht sized Accord or Altima was in the same price range with similar features.
The issue is that Americans classify cars and more notably, how much they should cost by size. The Japanese and most of the world don't exactly follow this logic. Keep in mind that the Kizashi is a global car and the same size car is sold around the world. The Accord and Altima as Americans know them don't exist in Japan despite being Japanese brands. Japan and many other countries have different sized models even if called the same name. For example, the Euro Accord sold in Japan and Europe was sold in the US, but was called the Acura TSX. It was smaller and more upscale than the midsize Accord sold in America.
USDM cars like the Accord and Altima were specifically designed for the US market and were sized larger than their international counterparts. They aren't only made in the US, they were made for the US.

The thing that surprises many people about the Kizashi is the level of refinement it has for the price and size. This is why the Kizashi appeared to cost a bit much for the size. Size-wise, many compared it to the Chevy Cruze, VW Jetta, and others like it but didn't realize that the Kizashi was a tier above in quality and refinement.

That being said, Suzuki was always at a disadvantage because they are known world-wide as a small, cheap car brand. Hence, despite them making the finest car they ever built, most consumers just saw the Kizashi as a cheap car with a hefty price tag (when fully loaded). It did not help that Suzuki's marketing was also dismal and poorly portrayed what the Kizashi was actually intended to be: Suzuki's debut as a broadening brand with a higher level of refinement. Suzuki even named the car "Kizashi" which means omen or harbinger in Japanese to represent this intention of going upscale. As we all know, it was a complete failure worldwide and Suzuki has apparently given up on it and is now doubling down on their strengths which are subcompacts. This is why I have repeatedly said that there is very unlikely to be a next generation Kizashi. Suzuki has apparently given the Kizashi fleet car treatment in Japan.

Despite the criticism of many, the Kizashi's size is perfect for me. I didn't want a compact car like what I used to have and part of it was because they lack refinement and ride quality. I also didn't want a USDM bloat-mobile of a midsize given I rarely have anyone in my backseats. I wanted something refined, sized as small as it could pull off as a midsize, and had good driving characteristics all while being a great value. The Kizashi was one of the very few cars that pulled this off. Hence I own one.
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Sluggo wrote:If Kizashis really got 30 mpg at 70 mph and 30 mpg at 100 mph as
reported on this site.....Suzuki would still be selling them!!
I don't know anything about 100 mph, but if my car was getting 30 mpg at 70, I'd be looking for a service bay. At a steady cruise control 70 mph, my car delivers 34 mpg. It's an FWD manual though.
I have never seen 30+ on a tank, even on a "pure" highway trip. Paininthenuts must have a particularly "good" copy.
What paininthenuts has is a bigger gallon. Multiply 38 mpg by .8 and find that he's getting 30.5 miles to the US gallon.
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KuroNekko wrote:I also didn't want a USDM bloat-mobile of a midsize given I rarely have anyone in my backseats. I wanted something refined, sized as small as it could pull off as a midsize, and had good driving characteristics all while being a great value. The Kizashi was one of the very few cars that pulled this off. Hence I own one.
I'm right there with you on the anti-bloat-mobile. The first generation Altima was the same size and proportions as the Kizashi. The current model is a monster and has lost everything that every attracted me to the original. Same for the Accord I own. I'll keep my 94, thank you.
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Woodie wrote:What paininthenuts has is a bigger gallon. Multiply 38 mpg by .8 and find that he's getting 30.5 miles to the US gallon.
I was wondering about this myself as British non-metric units can be a bit different than the US counterparts.

We're going to need a conversation table for all our speed/distance threads. :lol:
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Woodie wrote:What paininthenuts has is a bigger gallon. Multiply 38 mpg by .8 and find that he's getting 30.5 miles to the US gallon.
Right! Thank you!
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I'm not going to read every page but ... if some of you are only getting 270 for full tank and your car is 2.4L ... man bad news for you..... My 3.6L maxima goes for 300miles on full tank. And I drive wild sometimes. so... Idk what japan was thinking on not making this car more efficient like most other European cars. But hey... I'm not a gas mileage junky... if my suzuki ran only 270+ miles on full tank... I'd say something is wrong.
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Soviet wrote:I'm not going to read every page but ... if some of you are only getting 270 for full tank and your car is 2.4L ... man bad news for you..... My 3.6L maxima goes for 300miles on full tank. And I drive wild sometimes. so... Idk what japan was thinking on not making this car more efficient like most other European cars. But hey... I'm not a gas mileage junky... if my suzuki ran only 270+ miles on full tank... I'd say something is wrong.
Comparing range across cars is flawed. Why? Because range is heavily determined by fuel tank capacity. While your Maxima with a powerful V6 gets 300 miles to the tank, the fuel tank is also larger.
Proof? Let's compare the two cars for Model Year 2010.
The Maxima is a Full Size Sedan and has a 20 gallon gas tank. The Kizashi is a small Midsize with a 16.6 gallon gas tank.
In essence, getting 300 miles out of 20 gallons is less MPG (15) than getting 270 miles out of 16.6 gallons (16.2 MPG). However, not everyone gets this bad of fuel economy. I typically get around 340 miles out of 13.5 gallons which is just above 25 MPG. That's in mixed driving too.

Also, keep in mind that the Kizashi is running on older technology than most rivals now. However, it is also more reliable. Trust me that you will likely hear of direction injection fouling issues in the future, especially with turbos from inexperienced makers in DI Forced Induction. So while the Kizashi's fuel economy may leave one longing for better, there are other factors at play here.

Lastly, I want to note that I get decent fuel economy with my FWD manual. I average 25~26 MPG per tank in mixed city/hwy driving. Much like Woodie observed in his Kizashi, I've got 34 MPG in all highway cruising under 75 MPH. Not bad.
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Just did a cross country drive. My car usually gets less than 300 miles per tank and less than 20 MPG possibly due to the heavy stop and go drive. The last few tanks which were mainly highway driving yielded 30+ MPG
These are stats for my last 30 tanks with their calculated MPG, average mph (reset each tank), gas used. Last line is the average MPG calculated from total miles divided by total gallons, and average mph from total miles divided by total hours driven
Averaging around 24 MPG with 30 mph

226miles 12.3gal 18.4MPG 18mph Mobil 87
227miles 11.7gal 19.4MPG 19mph Mobil 87
241miles 11.1gal 21.7MPG 25mph Mobil 87
229miles 10.8gal 21.2MPG 25mph Mobil 87
271miles 10.2gal 26.6MPG 45mph Mobil 87
344miles 12.7gal 27.1MPG 43mph Mobil 87
307miles 11.4gal 26.9MPG 48mph Stewarts 87
270miles 12.1gal 22.3MPG 23mph Sunoco 87
301miles 13.4gal 22.5MPG 26mph Exxon 87
231miles 12.5gal 18.5MPG 20mph Exxon 93
243miles 13.5gal 18MPG 22mph Mobil 93
232miles 13.2gal 17.6MPG 18mph Exxon 93
261miles 13.4gal 19.5MPG 21mph Exxon 87
242miles 13.1gal 18.5MPG 24mph Mobil 87
224miles 12gal 18.7MPG 17mph Exxon 87
236miles 13.4gal 17.6MPG 17mph Mobil 87
289miles 13.7gal 21.1MPG 24mph Exxon 87
287miles 13.8gal 20.8MPG 22mph Exxon 87
273miles 14gal 19.5MPG 21mph Exxon 87
271miles 13.6gal 19.9MPG 19mph Exxon 87
325miles 12.7gal 25.6MPG 31mph BP 87
306miles 13.7gal 22.3MPG 25mph Exxon 87
314miles 12.9gal 24.3MPG 29mph Exxon 87
381miles 12.3gal 31MPG 58mph Sunoco 87
391miles 12.8gal 30.5MPG 60mph Sunoco 87
377miles 12gal 31.4MPG 68mph Mobil 87
319miles 11.2gal 28.5MPG 66mph BP 87
342miles 11.8gal 29MPG 56mph Shell 87
390miles 12.3gal 31.7MPG 68mph Exxon 85.5
421miles 12.8gal 32.9MPG 63mph Exxon 85.5
322miles 11.1gal 29MPG 55mph Texaco 87
9093miles 387.5gal 23.5MPG 29.7mph Total / Avg
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KuroNekko wrote:
Soviet wrote:I'm not going to read every page but ... if some of you are only getting 270 for full tank and your car is 2.4L ... man bad news for you..... My 3.6L maxima goes for 300miles on full tank. And I drive wild sometimes. so... Idk what japan was thinking on not making this car more efficient like most other European cars. But hey... I'm not a gas mileage junky... if my suzuki ran only 270+ miles on full tank... I'd say something is wrong.
Comparing range across cars is flawed. Why? Because range is heavily determined by fuel tank capacity. While your Maxima with a powerful V6 gets 300 miles to the tank, the fuel tank is also larger.
Proof? Let's compare the two cars for Model Year 2010.
The Maxima is a Full Size Sedan and has a 20 gallon gas tank. The Kizashi is a small Midsize with a 16.6 gallon gas tank.
In essence, getting 300 miles out of 20 gallons is less MPG (15) than getting 270 miles out of 16.6 gallons (16.2 MPG). However, not everyone gets this bad of fuel economy. I typically get around 340 miles out of 13.5 gallons which is just above 25 MPG. That's in mixed driving too.

Also, keep in mind that the Kizashi is running on older technology than most rivals now. However, it is also more reliable. Trust me that you will likely hear of direction injection fouling issues in the future, especially with turbos from inexperienced makers in DI Forced Induction. So while the Kizashi's fuel economy may leave one longing for better, there are other factors at play here.

Lastly, I want to note that I get decent fuel economy with my FWD manual. I average 25~26 MPG per tank in mixed city/hwy driving. Much like Woodie observed in his Kizashi, I've got 34 MPG in all highway cruising under 75 MPH. Not bad.
Ok yes I agree with most of what you said...

My maxima is 2002 and it's a 16-17 gallon tank. Still has more fuel economy,than a 2.4L cars? That's odd don't you think?

But Most of what you said ' if true ' than I'll have to test out my kizashi when it's done. All I read about Kizashi's in forum sometimes is how things don't work or rattle, or terrible at this and that, you get my drift. Japanese cars are build to last. I just hope Kizashi's are built to last as well.
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ipaqxman wrote:Just did a cross country drive. My car usually gets less than 300 miles per tank and less than 20 MPG possibly due to the heavy stop and go drive. The last few tanks which were mainly highway driving yielded 30+ MPG
These are stats for my last 30 tanks with their calculated MPG, average mph (reset each tank), gas used. Last line is the average MPG calculated from total miles divided by total gallons, and average mph from total miles divided by total hours driven
Averaging around 24 MPG with 30 mph

226miles 12.3gal 18.4MPG 18mph Mobil 87
227miles 11.7gal 19.4MPG 19mph Mobil 87
241miles 11.1gal 21.7MPG 25mph Mobil 87
229miles 10.8gal 21.2MPG 25mph Mobil 87
271miles 10.2gal 26.6MPG 45mph Mobil 87
344miles 12.7gal 27.1MPG 43mph Mobil 87
307miles 11.4gal 26.9MPG 48mph Stewarts 87
270miles 12.1gal 22.3MPG 23mph Sunoco 87
301miles 13.4gal 22.5MPG 26mph Exxon 87
231miles 12.5gal 18.5MPG 20mph Exxon 93
243miles 13.5gal 18MPG 22mph Mobil 93
232miles 13.2gal 17.6MPG 18mph Exxon 93
261miles 13.4gal 19.5MPG 21mph Exxon 87
242miles 13.1gal 18.5MPG 24mph Mobil 87
224miles 12gal 18.7MPG 17mph Exxon 87
236miles 13.4gal 17.6MPG 17mph Mobil 87
289miles 13.7gal 21.1MPG 24mph Exxon 87
287miles 13.8gal 20.8MPG 22mph Exxon 87
273miles 14gal 19.5MPG 21mph Exxon 87
271miles 13.6gal 19.9MPG 19mph Exxon 87
325miles 12.7gal 25.6MPG 31mph BP 87
306miles 13.7gal 22.3MPG 25mph Exxon 87
314miles 12.9gal 24.3MPG 29mph Exxon 87
381miles 12.3gal 31MPG 58mph Sunoco 87
391miles 12.8gal 30.5MPG 60mph Sunoco 87
377miles 12gal 31.4MPG 68mph Mobil 87
319miles 11.2gal 28.5MPG 66mph BP 87
342miles 11.8gal 29MPG 56mph Shell 87
390miles 12.3gal 31.7MPG 68mph Exxon 85.5
421miles 12.8gal 32.9MPG 63mph Exxon 85.5
322miles 11.1gal 29MPG 55mph Texaco 87
9093miles 387.5gal 23.5MPG 29.7mph Total / Avg
Is this data from random daily driving, or this special trip?

I have offered to analyze this type data for people before, but nobody has ever taken the detailed records.
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