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 #50485  by Ronzuki
 Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:53 am
No such animal in a FWD vehicle. Are you referring to the transfer case, which couples the rear differential to the trans via the drive shaft? I can look the assembly p/n up in the parts book at home if no one else comes up with it before I get to it.
 #50488  by kizashiwanter
 Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:51 pm
Hmmm. I don't know what I mean. Generally, I have a problem that something makes a noise when I turn left and go straight. And these are not wheel bearings. Mechanics tell me the noise is coming from the gearbox (CVT). When turning, I hear metallic noise. As if rubbing some elements together. I thought that the problem is not the CVT itself, but the transmission element. Do you have any technical drawing showing all the elements in the drive from the gearbox to the wheel?
 #50489  by kizashiwanter
 Tue Sep 24, 2019 1:01 pm
Ronzuki wrote:Are you referring to the transfer case, which couples the rear differential to the trans via the drive shaft?

I don't think so because I gave the car to an authorized Suzuki workshop. They took out this element and said that the noise is still there and they think it is a gearbox, and Suzuki is not repairing the transmission and they told me to look for some private workshop that repairs CVTs
 #50491  by Ronzuki
 Tue Sep 24, 2019 5:33 pm
Not sure how they took the xfer case out and were able to drive it around to know the noise is still present (thus eliminating the xfer case as the source of the noise)...but whatever. A rotational noise when turning in a fwd car used to mean a CV joint, wheel bearing or trans output bearing. I can't say with these CVTs. 'OldTech' on this forum works of these cars and more specifically, the transmissions. He's had them apart and knows what make them tick. He's near Pittsburgh if you're anywhere near there. Otherwise, I have no suggestions.
 #50494  by old tech
 Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:58 am
I had a 2011 fwd Kizashi with 102k miles in the shop with a noise Im pretty sure was from cvt drive belt . The customer was going to run it till it stops. As of now ,its still going. The noise sounded like a cv joint although it would do it straight a head also . It was loudest when left sitting for an hour or so and then just starting out . I suspect the one of the many bands cracked. I didnt think to try it in reverse at the time.
 #50495  by kizashiwanter
 Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:33 am
Ronzuki wrote:Not sure how they took the xfer case out and were able to drive it around to know the noise is still present (thus eliminating the xfer case as the source of the noise)...but whatever.

they took out some element responsible for the rear wheel drive 4x4. And then they started the engine again with the car on a lift. Someone was sitting inside and adding gas. Noise appears like the wheels are spinning.
I am far from Pittsburgh because I am from Europe
 #50496  by Ronzuki
 Wed Sep 25, 2019 11:43 am
They could easily enough remove the rear driveshaft which would rule it and the rear differential out, however, that would not disconnect the transfer case from the transmission in anyway. The xfer case internals would remain spinning. They'd literally have to separate the two cases (CVT and xfer case). That maybe possible up on a lift w/o disassembling a bunch of other things in the car... I dunno.

OT, are these CVTs truly rebuildable? Or would certain, or specific, failures render them as complete garbage like that 4-ball bearing or whatever it is grenading? In other words, (car value aside) if the customer you speak of was so inclined, would it make sense to rebuild that particular trans, or swap it out to save the core, before it completely took a dump? As in being proactive/preventative...
 #50497  by old tech
 Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:39 pm
There are eight roller bearings in the jf011e and any one of these could be causing you noise . The primary failure usually rises first. How many miles are on this unit ? To go after this noise and have probably 100+ miles I would tear it all down inspecting primary unit and belt and pressure control valve in pump, check all bearings and replace as needed. the bearings can be found on ebay. Do the pin conversion on primary for sure.
 #50501  by Ronzuki
 Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:53 am
What kind of time / dollars are we looking at to complete a preemptive strike such as what you describe (ie before the thing grenades), assuming the CVT is in an AWD vehicle...drive it in and drive it out?