New Tire Suggestions

twoqttsdad · Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:02 am

Curious about the RE760's too. Confident they perform well but wear quickly.

Careful about breaking them in tho. Need to wear away the waxes in the compound and the tire mold release chemicals. The mold release chemicals go away quickly but the waxes take a little longer. Waxes are used in the compound to help seal the tire from outside contaminants suck as oxygen and will leach to the surface while the tire sits in storage.

~tc~ · Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:56 am

FYI - beat tire prices I have ever found:
http://www.onlinetires.com/user/vehicle ... age_3.html

SamirD · Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:00 am

KuroNekko wrote:Keep us posted on those RE760s. They are decently priced as an Ultra High Performance Summer tire and have good ratings on tirerack.com.
I'm aiming to get a set of Summer tires once my OEM Dunlops are done (which may be soon due to the alignment issue).

Will do. I paid $748.67 out the door including mounting (mounting covered by warranty on wheels) and all taxes plus 4 free oil changes. Not too bad a value considering Tire rack had the tires alone for $141/ea. Plus, I will have tpms sensor rebuilds and everything done by the dealership so no surprises.

I actually knew more about the tpms sensors than Steve--he thought they were a single piece until he went in the back and got one and I showed him the washer and barrel that are part of the rebuild kits.

SamirD · Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:00 am

~tc~ wrote:I had some Bridgestones on the Impala, and they weren't anything special - good or bad. I also had some Nitto 450's, but the best were the Kumho ASX. I think the Conti DWS are better than any of those - quieter, as good dry grip, better wet grip.

Bridgestone makes all sorts of levels of quality. If it's not the RE760/960 series, they are just a regular tire for sure.

SamirD · Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:02 am

twoqttsdad wrote:Curious about the RE760's too. Confident they perform well but wear quickly.

Careful about breaking them in tho. Need to wear away the waxes in the compound and the tire mold release chemicals. The mold release chemicals go away quickly but the waxes take a little longer. Waxes are used in the compound to help seal the tire from outside contaminants suck as oxygen and will leach to the surface while the tire sits in storage.

I fully expect them to wear out within 10k since our alignment is not good.

Yep, I'm always cautious on new tires. You have to relearn the characteristics of the car, especially limits.

I have to be extra cautious as the Kizashi has some serious lateral limits even on snow tires.

~tc~ · Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:07 am

SamirD wrote:
~tc~ wrote:I had some Bridgestones on the Impala, and they weren't anything special - good or bad. I also had some Nitto 450's, but the best were the Kumho ASX. I think the Conti DWS are better than any of those - quieter, as good dry grip, better wet grip.
Bridgestone makes all sorts of levels of quality. If it's not the RE760/960 series, they are just a regular tire for sure.

They were potenza and had a unidirectional tread like the 960, but not sure what model they were - been quite a while.

twoqttsdad · Wed Mar 26, 2014 8:02 pm

Just a tip for those reading this thread and looking for a tire.

The UTQG (universal tire quality grading) system is what a lot of tire buyers look at when comparing tires. The tempurature and traction ratings are cross comparable between tires of different manufacturers as these are assigned by the US DOT. The tread wear rating is not as this is by the tire manufacturer, each with their own measuring standards. I get he feeling that the cheap stuff has overinflated tread wear ratings and the better stuff more conservative.
I have started to see tires coming in being labeled with a tire grading system that started out of Europe. It has rolling resistance, noise, and traction ratings. Easy to read bar graphs for each rating.

Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:49 pm

twoqttsdad wrote:Just a tip for those reading this thread and looking for a tire.

The UTQG (universal tire quality grading) system is what a lot of tire buyers look at when comparing tires. The tempurature and traction ratings are cross comparable between tires of different manufacturers as these are assigned by the US DOT. The tread wear rating is not as this is by the tire manufacturer, each with their own measuring standards. I get he feeling that the cheap stuff has overinflated tread wear ratings and the better stuff more conservative.
I have started to see tires coming in being labeled with a tire grading system that started out of Europe. It has rolling resistance, noise, and traction ratings. Easy to read bar graphs for each rating.

Good to know. It appears that most All Seasons have a tread wear rating of 300 to 400 while Summer tires rated at Max or Extreme have 200 or below.
I guess this makes sense as the higher traction tires will have softer rubber which wears quicker.

Thu Mar 27, 2014 1:20 am

The UTQG system is too vague for decision making IMO. The traction grade only measures stopping ability on wet pavement. Any tire worth your money should be AA at minimum.

Here's an example from my past experience:

Bridgestone g-force Super Sport A/S are 400-AA-A. Kumho 4X are 420-AA-A. Both are UHP all season tires with AA traction ratings but I've found that the Kumhos are far superior to the Bridgestones.

The factory tires are 340-A-A for what it's worth

SamirD · Thu Mar 27, 2014 3:21 am

~tc~ wrote:They were potenza and had a unidirectional tread like the 960, but not sure what model they were - been quite a while.

Hmmm...interesting. Maybe it was just the size? Even in 205/60/15, I really liked the RE950s.