CVT

[bootymac]

CVT has been banned from F1 for a reason - it's too fast. The ability to better use the engine is a significant advantage.

Very cool. I didn't know about this and had to read up on it: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2007/05/03/b ... ssion-cvt/

[murcod]

CVT's certainly don't display that advantage in the real world.

Some of the Kizashi acceleration figures I've read seem very optimistic. eg. I can't see a manual Kizashi getting anywhere close to the 7 second area for 0-100km/h.

While the manual gearbox Kizashi can do the 0-100 km/h stint in a matter of 7.8 seconds, the Kizashi with the CVT can do the same in 8.8 seconds.

http://www.motortrend.in/newcars/maruti ... eviews.htm

Edit:

It get's better!

As for the sprint time, the Suzuki Kizashi can blast forward from 0-100 km/h in just 7.4 seconds.

http://www.peterwarrensuzuki.com.au/new ... ki-Kizashi

We timed 0-100km/h and the Honda slightly edges out in front; 8.8 seconds versus 9.1 seconds.

(Sport AWD time)
http://performancedrive.com.au/2012-hon ... omparison/

Performance, though, feels decent rather than special (Drive recorded 9.4 seconds on the stopwatch for the 0-100km/h sprint),

(CVT time)
http://www.drive.com.au/new-car-reviews ... 14tdz.html

[Woodie]

The PDK is a DSG transmission. The Porsche training school in Georgia HEAVILY advocates leaving the PDK in "automatic" (Sport+) mode for best lap times.

CVT technology can improve both performance AND mileage. It's all in the tuning

Maybe you're not getting the point here. The Porsche PDK is NOT a CVT. it's a manual transmission which is shifted by the car's powertrain computer.

CVT has been banned from F1 for a reason - it's too fast. The ability to better use the engine is a significant advantage.

Please, let's not go back to this fairy tale again, that's simply not true. CVT was banned because the FIA (quite rightly) wants the driver to control the car. They also banned DSG style transmissions, and launch control, and anti-lock brakes, and active suspension

This sentence in that "article" is total fabrication, it is not proof of anything: "There was also speculation that it had instantly proved several seconds per lap quicker than the conventional Williams". Someone writes opinion in an online blog and five years later people are quoting it as gospel.

[LPSISRL]

I actually played around a bit today with accelerating hard from a stop. With the ESC/traction control off, I can chirp the tires good, even in 2nd gear and take off in a hurry. It's no hot hatch, but doesn't quite disappoint.
Shift it!

Please explain how you chirped the tires in 2nd with the CVT. I'm curious...

[KuroNekko]

I actually played around a bit today with accelerating hard from a stop. With the ESC/traction control off, I can chirp the tires good, even in 2nd gear and take off in a hurry. It's no hot hatch, but doesn't quite disappoint.
Shift it!

Please explain how you chirped the tires in 2nd with the CVT. I'm curious...

I don't own a CVT. Hence, I used the dude actually shifting in my original post.

I got it on my dash cam too.

[~tc~]

They also banned DSG style transmissions, and launch control, and anti-lock brakes, and active suspension

All F1 cars are using DSG type transmissions.

[SamirD]

I'm also a bit confused about your claim regarding the PDK. That's a dual clutch transmission, but Porsche offers that as the only automatic for their coupes. It's either the PDK or the manual and the Tiptronic is only seen in the SUVs.

When the PDK was initially introduced, you could get either the old Tiptronic system or the PDK or a manual. Comparisons showed the PDK was faster in track testing. The techs I knew that went to the training were blown away by the Panamera Turbo S as it would actually hang right with the Turbo 911 when outfitted with the PDK.

[SamirD]

...the average car buyer buys a car as an appliance so factors like fuel efficiency and smoothness are valued rather high and sells the car. In this regard, it's not a surprise why CVTs have become so popular in segments such as compacts and midsizes.

I wish these people had a different set of roads to drive on and parking lots to park in. It would make our life a lot nicer.

[Woodie]

They also banned DSG style transmissions, and launch control, and anti-lock brakes, and active suspension

All F1 cars are using DSG type transmissions.

You're right, that was very poorly worded. They banned the computer shifting the DSG automatically, it must be shifted by the driver.