What Did You Do With Your Kizashi Today?

[SamirD]

Look in the mirror. I am there... standing behind your shoulder.
Feel the chill?

Kid from the Allstate commercial, "Freaky!".

[paininthenuts]

Interesting, we are both vegis (me for 50 years) both have a JRT, and both own a Kizi. This is far to spooky

I'm sure there is some psychological co-relation between the type of person someone is and the type of car they drive. It's why people with similar cars get along so well.

I've always wanted to write for a grant to fund some research to find out the real theories and truth behind this.

But the archetypal vegi is someone who drives a "green" car at 30mph. I am a truck driver, who thrives on the fact he drives a vehicle that looks awesome and that can accelerate from 30 to 70 very quickly. You must admit that the Kizi is hardly the average vegi's choice

[KuroNekko]

Interesting, we are both vegis (me for 50 years) both have a JRT, and both own a Kizi. This is far to spooky

I'm sure there is some psychological co-relation between the type of person someone is and the type of car they drive. It's why people with similar cars get along so well.

I've always wanted to write for a grant to fund some research to find out the real theories and truth behind this.

But the archetypal vegi is someone who drives a "green" car at 30mph. I am a truck driver, who thrives on the fact he drives a vehicle that looks awesome and that can accelerate from 30 to 70 very quickly. You must admit that the Kizi is hardly the average vegi's choice

It all depends on the reason why people do certain things. For example, there are 3 main reason why people become vegetarians. 1) Animal rights, 2) Environmental reasons, and 3) Health reasons.
So if one was an environmental vegetarian, then it would go in line with driving a hybrid or some other eco-conscious vehicle. I personally care for the environment, but it's not the reason I'm a vegetarian and the Kizashi is not some gross polluter either. It's a 4 cylinder sedan that can get 30 MPG. A large majority of the cars sold anywhere are far worse for the environment than any Suzuki. Sure, the Kizashi is not the best vehicle for the environment, but if one was so hardcore, they ought to drive no car at all. Bicycling would actually be a near-zero-pollution mode of transportation. I say near-zero because even the production of a bicycle would cause some pollution (though realistically next to nothing). Public transportation is also much better than owning any car, even an electric vehicle. But of course, these alternatives aren't really reasonable for those who need a car.

Also, one would have less of an environmental impact driving a Kizashi and being a vegetarian than one who regularly eats meat yet drives a Prius or an EV. You can't simply rely on just your car as a means of trying to be more eco-conscious. In fact, changing one's diet has the largest individual impact on the environment if one really wanted to do something about it. A tip this Prius-driving woman could have used:

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[Woodie]

Geese, what an asshole. When she came back for the second round, she should have been decked. Cheryl showed great restraint.

[paininthenuts]

I've always wanted to write for a grant to fund some research to find out the real theories and truth behind this. [/quote]

But the archetypal vegi is someone who drives a "green" car at 30mph. I am a truck driver, who thrives on the fact he drives a vehicle that looks awesome and that can accelerate from 30 to 70 very quickly. You must admit that the Kizi is hardly the average vegi's choice[/quote]

It all depends on the reason why people do certain things. For example, there are 3 main reason why people become vegetarians. 1) Animal rights, 2) Environmental reasons, and 3) Health reasons.
So if one was an environmental vegetarian, then it would go in line with driving a hybrid or some other eco-conscious vehicle. I personally care for the environment, but it's not the reason I'm a vegetarian and the Kizashi is not some gross polluter either. It's a 4 cylinder sedan that can get 30 MPG. A large majority of the cars sold anywhere are far worse for the environment than any Suzuki. Sure, the Kizashi is not the best vehicle for the environment, but if one was so hardcore, they ought to drive no car at all. Bicycling would actually be a near-zero-pollution mode of transportation. I say near-zero because even the production of a bicycle would cause some pollution (though realistically next to nothing). Public transportation is also much better than owning any car, even an electric vehicle. But of course, these alternatives aren't really reasonable for those who need a car.

Also, one would have less of an environmental impact driving a Kizashi and being a vegetarian than one who regularly eats meat yet drives a Prius or an EV. You can't simply rely on just your car as a means of trying to be more eco-conscious. In fact, changing one's diet has the largest individual impact on the environment if one really wanted to do something about it. A tip this Prius-driving woman could have used:

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It has been proven that the creation and destruction of the batteries that go into a Prius create more pollution than a Range Rover will in it's entire life (re Top Gear). Anyway, I am not particularly green, I just love animals, and believe that eating them would make me very hypocritical. I was six years old when I was told what meat was, and haven't eaten it since. It's not something I preach, it's something that makes me feel comfortable with myself. I know the world won't become vegi like you or I, all I ask is that whilst the animal is alive it is treated humanly, and when it is destroyed it should be quick and painless. Unfortunately these simple requests are ignored far to often.

[coref1]

Somebody didn't take their medication.lol

[paininthenuts]

Somebody didn't take their medication.lol

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[KuroNekko]

Somebody didn't take their medication.lol

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He's talking about the self-righteous, smug Prius driver in the video.

It has been proven that the creation and destruction of the batteries that go into a Prius create more pollution than a Range Rover will in it's entire life (re Top Gear). Anyway, I am not particularly green, I just love animals, and believe that eating them would make me very hypocritical. I was six years old when I was told what meat was, and haven't eaten it since. It's not something I preach, it's something that makes me feel comfortable with myself. I know the world won't become vegi like you or I, all I ask is that whilst the animal is alive it is treated humanly, and when it is destroyed it should be quick and painless. Unfortunately these simple requests are ignored far to often.

I actually don't believe the argument much at all that EVs or hybrids with batteries contribute to more pollution than fossil-fuel burning cars, especially SUVs.
Most of the discussions I've read actually don't account for how fossil fuel is produced so the argument merely examines the production of batteries and hybrid efficiency versus just the fuel consumption rate and emissions of the fossil fuel SUV. However, this argument is heavily flawed because it doesn't have all factors equal like how and where the fuel for the SUV comes from.
In reality, fossil fuels have to be drilled from non-renewal sources. Drilling, pumping, transport, refinement, and distribution are all realities that the flawed comparative analysis seem to conveniently omit yet these are HUGE factors in environmental pollution. Some examples? The Exxon Valdez (transport) and the recent Deepwater Horizon oil rig (drilling) accidents.
Also, batteries can be recycled after they've served their use (roughly about 10 years on average for the Prius and EVs).

Between a hybrid Prius and a SUV, the Prius uses significantly less fuel because it can run on electricity some of the time. The battery powering the electricity will last for nearly a decade before it can be recycled. All things considered, not sure how this actually creates more pollution than a SUV that continuously burns much more fossil fuel that can only be sourced from finite resources that must be continuously extracted and refined.

The argument also gets weaker when in comparison to PHEV or EVs that can directly power themselves from the grid or even off-grid electrical sources. These allow energy from completely renewable and clean sources such as wind, solar, and hydroelectric. In this case, the argument that battery production is worse for the environment is laughable. And again, batteries last a long time before needing to be replaced. When that happens, they are recycled. It's not like they are continuously mined and created like each tank of fuel.
On the contrary, fossil fuels continuously burn and emit smog-forming emissions which contribute to the world's most dire environmental crisis; global warming.

All that being said, just because one drives a Prius or an EV doesn't mean they are saving the world like the smug bitch in the video. It's just one factor of many that needs to be examined in terms of reducing environmental impact. As I've stated before, one's diet has more of an impact on the environment than what they drive.

Much like you, I'm also a vegetarian for animal rights reasons. I've been one for a little over ten years (you are old enough to be my father, by the way). Like you, I really like animals and was appalled at the conditions that are considered normal in factory farms for the mass production of meat.
Based on my ethos, I actually want to go vegan, but that can be pretty hard especially if you live in an area where there aren't many vegan-friendly options. I'll gravitate to it eventually, especially when I move back to California where vegan options are more readily available. That being said, veganism can be annoying to friends and family if they aren't themselves. I'm the only vegetarian in my family and group of male friends so the following can ring true.

[paininthenuts]

It has been proven that the creation and destruction of the batteries that go into a Prius create more pollution than a Range Rover will in it's entire life (re Top Gear). Anyway, I am not particularly green, I just love animals, and believe that eating them would make me very hypocritical. I was six years old when I was told what meat was, and haven't eaten it since. It's not something I preach, it's something that makes me feel comfortable with myself. I know the world won't become vegi like you or I, all I ask is that whilst the animal is alive it is treated humanly, and when it is destroyed it should be quick and painless. Unfortunately these simple requests are ignored far to often.

I actually don't believe the argument much at all that EVs or hybrids with batteries contribute to more pollution than fossil-fuel burning cars, especially SUVs.
Most of the discussions I've read actually don't account for how fossil fuel is produced so the argument merely examines the production of batteries and hybrid efficiency versus just the fuel consumption rate and emissions of the fossil fuel SUV. However, this argument is heavily flawed because it doesn't have all factors equal like how and where the fuel for the SUV comes from.
In reality, fossil fuels have to be drilled from non-renewal sources. Drilling, pumping, transport, refinement, and distribution are all realities that the flawed comparative analysis seem to conveniently omit yet these are HUGE factors in environmental pollution. Some examples? The Exxon Valdez (transport) and the recent Deepwater Horizon oil rig (drilling) accidents.
Also, batteries can be recycled after they've served their use (roughly about 10 years on average for the Prius and EVs).

Between a hybrid Prius and a SUV, the Prius uses significantly less fuel because it can run on electricity some of the time. The battery powering the electricity will last for nearly a decade before it can be recycled. All things considered, not sure how this actually creates more pollution than a SUV that continuously burns much more fossil fuel that can only be sourced from finite resources that must be continuously extracted and refined.

The argument also gets weaker when in comparison to PHEV or EVs that can directly power themselves from the grid or even off-grid electrical sources. These allow energy from completely renewable and clean sources such as wind, solar, and hydroelectric. In this case, the argument that battery production is worse for the environment is laughable. And again, batteries last a long time before needing to be replaced. When that happens, they are recycled. It's not like they are continuously mined and created like each tank of fuel.
On the contrary, fossil fuels continuously burn and emit smog-forming emissions which contribute to the world's most dire environmental crisis; global warming.

All that being said, just because one drives a Prius or an EV doesn't mean they are saving the world like the smug bitch in the video. It's just one factor of many that needs to be examined in terms of reducing environmental impact. As I've stated before, one's diet has more of an impact on the environment than what they drive.

Much like you, I'm also a vegetarian for animal rights reasons. I've been one for a little over ten years (you are old enough to be my father, by the way). Like you, I really like animals and was appalled at the conditions that are considered normal in factory farms for the mass production of meat.
Based on my ethos, I actually want to go vegan, but that can be pretty hard especially if you live in an area where there aren't many vegan-friendly options. I'll gravitate to it eventually, especially when I move back to California where vegan options are more readily available. That being said, veganism can be annoying to friends and family if they aren't themselves. I'm the only vegetarian in my family and group of male friends so the following can ring true.


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I have only been to the states once, and that was Florida in 1990. I must say that it was about the hardest place I have ever found to eat, although I am told the West side of America is easier, mainly because of the age profile. The UK has got a lot better over the years. My problem is that although I am not a vegan I hate cheese and don't eat eggs unless they are part of a cake etc. I also don't like mushrooms, and to be honest there are quite a few vegetables I don't like either. The best country I have ever eaten in ,and have been to many times, is Turkey. I hope to go to India in the next few years, as their % of vegis is very high, and I just love a curry.

[redmed]

Electric cars MAY be a viable mode of transportation. The recent electric car fad brought on by the “Climate Change” (formally “Global Warming”) panic is heavily supported by government funding and rebates. Without this government intervention electric powered vehicles today would likely fade into history as impractical as they did in the early 1900’s. Without the ability to travel long distances electric vehicles are best suited for golf courses, factory floors and handicapped carts. Until a new technology like Solaroadways.com
allows electric vehicles to be powered inductively. Even though this seems interesting I still wonder what happens at night. Do the panels still melt snow, light up and provide inductive power without also being powered by fossil fueled power plants? If so, this creates duplicate power grids. When we barely afford to maintain our existing power grid.

In the early 1970’s government sponsored studies told us we would run out of oil by 1990. Yeah right! One day in the early 70’s I was working on my car when it started to rain so I came inside and turned on the TV. I watched a hour show on PBS predicting Global Cooling the next hour was a show predicting Global Warming. Which scientist was correct ? More recently scientists declared Lake Erie a dead lake that would never recover. A few years later Zebra Mussels came into Lake Erie and it now full of life.

Many PHD’s apply for grants from governments. They don’t apply for a study to say everything’s not bad, because the study would not get funding. Instead their study is of a impending crisis which of course the news shows broadcast.