White non HID DLR?
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Dthrill_08
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I am putting white LED strip and white HID lights but I was wondering if Sylvania or another brand makes White bulbs for the DLR but without HID kit.Thank you in advance.
Unfortunately, there is no perfect solution to this issue as far as I know.
Halogens are yellowy at DRL mode no matter what the bulb color or output rating. This is because the low DRL voltage has the halogens at a low voltage burn. This makes them look more yellowy than at full voltage. DRLs also work by actually pulsating the voltage instead of a constant low voltage. This pulsating voltage causes issues for other types of bulbs such as HID and LED.
HIDs are not a good option because even if they work as DRLs, they aren't well suited for high beam usage. HIDs emit light via a gas discharge arc from a chemical reaction. Unlike halogens and LEDs, they require a bit of time to reach their full output. HID bulbs also don't like intermittent use as typically required of high beams. This is why you never seen OEMs use HIDs as high beams unless they are bi-xenon (meaning the low and high beam bulb are the same and the difference is the shielding of the light in low vs. high beam mode). Bi-xenon systems don't have to worry about the issue above because the bulb was previously on from low beam mode.
LED conversion kits, as I've extensively dealt with, offer a great output of white light as DRLs, but occasionally suffer from flickering issues due to the low and unstable voltage of the Kizashi's DRL system. LEDs are also not great as high beams because the conversion bulbs don't work in the reflector the way the headlight was designed. They simply do not reflect the light and throw it down the road as intended. My experience with the VLEDs LED kit was that it output a good amount of light all around, but at short range and wasn't good for long range illumination as high beams are actually intended.
In essence, there is no perfect solution until newer products with better technologies addressing these issues are created.
Halogens are yellowy at DRL mode no matter what the bulb color or output rating. This is because the low DRL voltage has the halogens at a low voltage burn. This makes them look more yellowy than at full voltage. DRLs also work by actually pulsating the voltage instead of a constant low voltage. This pulsating voltage causes issues for other types of bulbs such as HID and LED.
HIDs are not a good option because even if they work as DRLs, they aren't well suited for high beam usage. HIDs emit light via a gas discharge arc from a chemical reaction. Unlike halogens and LEDs, they require a bit of time to reach their full output. HID bulbs also don't like intermittent use as typically required of high beams. This is why you never seen OEMs use HIDs as high beams unless they are bi-xenon (meaning the low and high beam bulb are the same and the difference is the shielding of the light in low vs. high beam mode). Bi-xenon systems don't have to worry about the issue above because the bulb was previously on from low beam mode.
LED conversion kits, as I've extensively dealt with, offer a great output of white light as DRLs, but occasionally suffer from flickering issues due to the low and unstable voltage of the Kizashi's DRL system. LEDs are also not great as high beams because the conversion bulbs don't work in the reflector the way the headlight was designed. They simply do not reflect the light and throw it down the road as intended. My experience with the VLEDs LED kit was that it output a good amount of light all around, but at short range and wasn't good for long range illumination as high beams are actually intended.
In essence, there is no perfect solution until newer products with better technologies addressing these issues are created.
2025 Mazda CX-50 Preferred Hybrid
2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport GTS 6MT (Sold)
2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport GTS 6MT (Sold)
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Dthrill_08
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I don't have automatic head lights so I should just connect my LED strip with HID light and not do it for DLR LEd.
How you should wire it depends on how you want the LED strip to function.Dthrill_08 wrote:I don't have automatic head lights so I should just connect my LED strip with HID light and not do it for DLR LEd.
If I were you, I'd wire the LED strip as the DRL and disable the high beam bulb DRL. Just wire it so the high beam bulbs only come on as high beams. This way, the LED strip won't clash with the yellow halogens. Bootymac detailed how to access the DRL module in this thread:
http://www.kizashiclub.com/forum/viewto ... =28&t=3012
Personally, I see little point in having the LED strip come on with the low beam HIDs in both function and aesthetics. The HID output would wash out much of the look of the LEDs if they are around the headlight, especially at night.
I'd say just use them as DRLs.
Keep in mind I don't have LED strips on my car as I'm not that into them. Other members here have them or have other LED DRLs kits. Hopefully, they can chime in on how they wired theirs.
2025 Mazda CX-50 Preferred Hybrid
2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport GTS 6MT (Sold)
2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport GTS 6MT (Sold)
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Dthrill_08
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I am not disassembling the headlight to put on the strip. I am doing the way the banner on this site has it. I find it, it looks best on that spot. Thank you for all your help! I might just not do it at all. I will invest in a good LED strip for the bottom where the fog lights go since I have the SE.