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 #45814  by Ronzuki
 Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:59 pm
:? 4kw? :lol:
 #45817  by KuroNekko
 Sun Nov 26, 2017 10:24 pm
Not sure about your specs specifically, but there are two HP figures for the Kizashi: 180HP and 185HP. Maybe your KW figures are reflective of this. If so, then the difference is between the automatic models with the CVT which max out at 180HP and the 6 speed manual transmission models which max out at 185HP. Basically, on paper, the manual trans Kizashi makes more max HP. However, it's a nominal difference.

The real difference, that one can actually appreciate in an applied sense, is with the 0 to 60 figures between the two. The manual trans Kizashi is nearly 2 whole seconds faster to 60 MPH than an AWD model with a CVT. That's almost like a different car altogether! Hence, it's not the engine HP figures that one should really be concerned about but the difference in performance between a 6 speed manual and a CVT model. That being said, I'm sure the AWD system makes the Kizashi leagues better to drive on snow than the FWD manual.
 #45819  by Ronzuki
 Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:45 pm
matcin84 wrote:Why are you laughing?


Oh, I don't know...you posed a mathematical equation, with zero addition information, and I replied with the correct answer.

btw, 4kw is actually 5.364088358 hp, which is roughly 1/4 of my garden tractor's rated hp, and, why I'm laughing. You can gain or lose that amount of power by switching the brand of gas you put in the car. So what's your actual question?
 #45823  by LPSISRL
 Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:54 pm
The HP difference may be simply related to the different rev limits. I believe the MT is allowed to rev 500 RPM higher thus the additional ponies. Or watts as in your standard. I've always wondered if that lower limit was there to protect the CVT as 185 HP and the additional RPM might be a bit too much for the rated input shaft HP/RPM spec. There's a 100K mile warranty to think about and 5 less HP may provide just what's needed to keep things reliable.
 #45825  by matcin84
 Mon Nov 27, 2017 8:58 pm
The difference is with the model yearbook?
The newer has more HP? Are people in forum having kizashi from 2014?
When I buying a part the seller had several models to choose from ... so I ask here.
My Kizashi Sport is 178 HP MT from 2011.
If the car has the same engine where are the differences?
 #45827  by Ronzuki
 Tue Nov 28, 2017 1:51 am
The electronics controlling everything is where the differences are. Fact: different TCMs for CVT model cars with or w/o AWD. TCMs converse with the ECMs. ECM software (firmware) in these modules makes it ridiculously easy for manufacturers to dial down (or up) anything they chose for whatever reason they chose. The CVT is seemingly a bit undersized for this car so they can easily shave off power to stay within the CVT's limits, as was mentioned, to hopefully prevent failure long enough to exceed warranty duration. That statement is entirely speculation, by those of us who've noticed the CVT model's lack of head jerking launch power. If you're looking for definitive, documented, factual information describing the "how and why" of the minute differences in power specs, I doubt you're going to find it.
 #45833  by WESHOOT2
 Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:16 pm
Suzuki purposely limited available torque during launch of CVT models to enhance the Jatco box's longevity.