Avoid ethanol belnd fuel

[LPSISRL]

This was an interesting thread. After I've had my Kizashi long enough to settle in on what fuel economy I'm getting, I'll test it out. Thanks for sharing your experiences, PCMERLIN.

[Bizzenn]

Has anybody tried pure gas? Here in FL, Wawa sells pure gas with no ethanol however its expensive.

[n8dogg]

Yes, and got immediately better fuel economy! Using my own calculations after each fill up, instead of the computer, I averaged between 21-23 mpg on regular with ethanol. One tank of regular pure gas and I got over 26 mpg. It was the only time I’ve ever gotten that good of gas Millage. It did cost more, at a full service only station (which is almost unheard of here) but when broken down to cost per mile, it broke even. If I didn’t have to go out of my way to get it, or it could be just a little cheaper, I’d definitely fill up there more often.
You can find stations that sell it here…www.pure-gas.org

[SamirD]

I'll need to check the fuel delivery bills for my dad's Chevron and see what the blend is for the 93 vs the 87. I distinctly remember 87 has 10% ethanol.

Non-ethanol fuel will always yield better performance. I know my older cars like it, and most high-performance enthusiasts everywhere hate the ethanol stuff unless they're running e85.

I filled up with some good fuel earlier today--Mobil 93 octane. (And coincidentally enough, before seeing this thread). I usually fill up 87 from the no-name place right down the street. We do mostly city driving, so I'll see if I can't feel anything different.

[bootymac]

Everything is E10 here except Chevron 94. I've read that E10 yields a 3% decrease to fuel efficiency, but has a higher "effective" octane. Don't know how accurate or valid these claims are

[honsonwong]

Everything is E10 here except Chevron 94. I've read that E10 yields a 3% decrease to fuel efficiency, but has a higher "effective" octane. Don't know how accurate or valid these claims are

Try Shell V-power Octane 91, it carries no ethanol. I think its the lower octane gasoline with no ethanol in B.C.

[bootymac]

Everything is E10 here except Chevron 94. I've read that E10 yields a 3% decrease to fuel efficiency, but has a higher "effective" octane. Don't know how accurate or valid these claims are

Try Shell V-power Octane 91, it carries no ethanol. I think its the lower octane gasoline with no ethanol in B.C.

You're right! http://www.shell.ca/en/products-service ... r/faq.html

Unfortunately there aren't any Shells near my house but there's a Chevron at nearly very corner. I'll try it out when it's convenient as 94 isn't really necessary. I used it on my GTI but my tune can use 91-92 and the methanol injection takes care of the rest

[Woodie]

Yes, and got immediately better fuel economy! Using my own calculations after each fill up, instead of the computer, I averaged between 21-23 mpg on regular with ethanol. One tank of regular pure gas and I got over 26

There's something else at work here. There's 3% less energy in E10, a 20% increase is being caused by some other factor or it was just an anomaly. You need to perform further tests.

[coref1]

In Australia we have e10 however due to buyer resistance it hasn't really taken off as much as he Government would like. I don't use e10 as the mechanic that services my other car, Toyota Corolla, always says to me "don't use e10". In New South Wales, where I live, e10 was meant to replace 91ron ulp however due to buyer resistance this has not happened. In fact my local service station has put 91ron ulp back on. If I go to a Service station which does not have 91 ulp i buy 95 or 98 premium.

[SamirD]

Everything is E10 here except Chevron 94. I've read that E10 yields a 3% decrease to fuel efficiency, but has a higher "effective" octane. Don't know how accurate or valid these claims are

I've personally experienced less fuel efficiency with my older Japanese cars that were made before Ethanol was popular. I try to use pure fuel in them as often as possible.

The effective octane is higher as I know some high-performance enthusiasts who have moved their build to e85 versus using race fuel. The only disadvantage is that you need to move a lot more fuel. So bigger fuel pumps, injectors, etc. But the fuel is cheaper than 100+ octane per gallon. But you need more. Works out the same in the end imo.

I guess the long-term advantage is less dependence on foreign sources and Ethanol can be produced domestically, but I'm sure politics fouls that all up.