I would take the legacy out. I don't think it is engaging at all. It has awd, looks like a last gen Lexus and is reliable. To me it is a lot like the Camry except with awd.KuroNekko wrote:Oh, I never said the Camry was a bad car. It's not the king in midsize sales for nothing. It's reliable, long-lasting, economical, and has strong resale value. I have also heard of the V6's strong performance in the Camry.
However, a lot of people buy the Camry by default. It's like they don't care to shop around. The car also does not offer very engaging driving dynamics as it does not need to. Toyota knows its reputation alone will allow the Camry to sell itself. A lot of car enthusiasts criticize Toyota and the Camry because it's really the product of them resting on their laurels.
There is no doubt the Camry is a good midsize, however, one is really not doing themselves a favor when they ignore good alternatives to the car. Great examples include the Kizashi, Mazda6, and Legacy which are all very good cars from smaller companies.
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The problem with Camry is that it defines compromise. A car that blends various desirable aspects into one.
Mix fire and ice and you have lukewarm water.
Back on topic - the Contis do compromise firmness for comfort. But it suits my needs. I commute daily into Manhattan. If you have ever been on the FDR Drive, you know it was paved and is maintained by masochists. And when it rains it's the land of lakes.
Mix fire and ice and you have lukewarm water.
Back on topic - the Contis do compromise firmness for comfort. But it suits my needs. I commute daily into Manhattan. If you have ever been on the FDR Drive, you know it was paved and is maintained by masochists. And when it rains it's the land of lakes.
Former driver of a 2011 SLS AWD Platinum
The funniest part in that Camry advert posted yesterday was the guy saying his wife liked the car (while she's driving him). Seemed like a classic "under the thumb" scene with her wearing the pants in the family!Firefly wrote:The problem with Camry is that it defines compromise. A car that blends various desirable aspects into one.
Mix fire and ice and you have lukewarm water.

Much the same reason I stuck with 17" rims - there are too many rough roads where I drive. Everyone has differing needs and preferences.Firefly wrote:Back on topic - the Contis do compromise firmness for comfort. But it suits my needs. I commute daily into Manhattan. If you have ever been on the FDR Drive, you know it was paved and is maintained by masochists. And when it rains it's the land of lakes.
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The Legacy is the least sporty out of the alternatives I listed, but the second to last generation was better than the current. I drove one and thought it was rather good. Subaru also used to offer the Legacy GT; a turbo model with a manual.Knightstruth wrote: I would take the legacy out. I don't think it is engaging at all. It has awd, looks like a last gen Lexus and is reliable. To me it is a lot like the Camry except with awd.
However, you are right in that the Legacy's strong points are similar to the Camry and the main difference is AWD. Maybe snooze is contagious as Subaru is now about 20% owned by Toyota.
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2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport GTS 6MT (Sold)
2011 Suzuki Kizashi Sport GTS 6MT (Sold)
When I said the Continental Pure-contacts size 235/45-18 turned my Kizashi
into a Camry I was just trying to say that these tires greatly improved the ride.
The car rides much smoother over all road surfaces, but the down side is a lose
of steering quickness. The Pure-Contact is a soft tire that is great in the rain.
into a Camry I was just trying to say that these tires greatly improved the ride.
The car rides much smoother over all road surfaces, but the down side is a lose

of steering quickness. The Pure-Contact is a soft tire that is great in the rain.
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