CVT 0-60 not accurate?

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The 6-speed is quicker. I've driven both. In fact there's no comparison. I would have loved a MT, but that limits my seating position since you need to push all the way to the floor. I can't push the seat back and relax. With a bad back and short legs, I had to settle for the MT. But I love the SLS trim level so I'll just deal with the fact that it's not as quick off the line. But at 50 MPH, dropping the paddle shifters a couple of gears, you're doing 80 in no time. Let's see, if I'm going 80 miles per hour, how long will it take me to drive 80 miles? :-) Maybe Chelsea can tell me. If you don't know what I'm talking about, google 80 miles per hour and look for the blonde with a puzzled look. Hilarious!
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KuroNekko wrote:I also think the manual is faster. I have never driven the CVT, but I have read reviews on the Kizashi in which the writer drove both and one even said the manual "feels like it has 50 more horsepower" than the CVT. That's huge.
I think the 0 to 60 times are also significantly faster for the man trans not to mention it also technically has 5 more horsepower than the CVT model.

I don't consider my manual Kizashi slow. It's not as fast in acceleration as the Mazda3 I had, but this car is heavier and more refined. I take off in traffic just fine and the only time it feels sluggish is accelerating from 5th or 6th gear on the freeway, especially if revs are too low (which is really with any car that is normally aspirated).

Basically the plus side to a manual Kizashi is the faster acceleration.
The plus side to the CVT model is the availability of the AWD which apparently is quite awesome.

I guess asking for a manual transmission plus AWD was too much to ask from Suzuki although Subaru would be knocking on the door.
I have no doubt the manual is faster. The none awd cvt is faster also. I still am happy with the performance of the awd model though. It feels alot better than the Legacy CVT which did make it "feel" slow.
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Mine pulls REALLY hard once it's rolling........

Gas mileage vs horsepower; the never-ending dichotomy of drivers. Ay?
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KuroNekko wrote:I also think the manual is faster. I have never driven the CVT, but I have read reviews on the Kizashi in which the writer drove both and one even said the manual "feels like it has 50 more horsepower" than the CVT. That's huge.
I think the 0 to 60 times are also significantly faster for the man trans not to mention it also technically has 5 more horsepower than the CVT model.

I don't consider my manual Kizashi slow. It's not as fast in acceleration as the Mazda3 I had, but this car is heavier and more refined. I take off in traffic just fine and the only time it feels sluggish is accelerating from 5th or 6th gear on the freeway, especially if revs are too low (which is really with any car that is normally aspirated).

Basically the plus side to a manual Kizashi is the faster acceleration.
The plus side to the CVT model is the availability of the AWD which apparently is quite awesome.

I guess asking for a manual transmission plus AWD was too much to ask from Suzuki although Subaru would be knocking on the door.

While I love my sls awd 2012 I almost didn't buy it because I wanted a manual. That beind said the kizashi offered so much more than the subaru family could offer I decided to make due with the cvt.
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I test drove nearly identical Kizashis, a CVT and the 6-spd that I eventually purchased.

I knew from experience w/ my parent's SX4 AWD that the CVT is a dog in the day-to-day. I got the same impression in the CVT Kiz...it felt heavy since it takes a few for the CVT to adjust to the right ratio after pressing the accelerator.

6-spd by comparison feels lighter with quicker reaction to imput. But I'm no 0-60 racer, that's why I have the motorcycle :twisted:
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PittsburghJoe wrote:
KuroNekko wrote:I also think the manual is faster. I have never driven the CVT, but I have read reviews on the Kizashi in which the writer drove both and one even said the manual "feels like it has 50 more horsepower" than the CVT. That's huge.
I think the 0 to 60 times are also significantly faster for the man trans not to mention it also technically has 5 more horsepower than the CVT model.

I don't consider my manual Kizashi slow. It's not as fast in acceleration as the Mazda3 I had, but this car is heavier and more refined. I take off in traffic just fine and the only time it feels sluggish is accelerating from 5th or 6th gear on the freeway, especially if revs are too low (which is really with any car that is normally aspirated).

Basically the plus side to a manual Kizashi is the faster acceleration.
The plus side to the CVT model is the availability of the AWD which apparently is quite awesome.

I guess asking for a manual transmission plus AWD was too much to ask from Suzuki although Subaru would be knocking on the door.

While I love my sls awd 2012 I almost didn't buy it because I wanted a manual. That beind said the kizashi offered so much more than the subaru family could offer I decided to make due with the cvt.
I like subarus but something about their current lineup leaves me wanting more.... I even think subaru should have an edge becuse they build their cars ground up to be all-wheel drive, but the kizashi feels quicker than the 2.5i legacy and imprezza. I mean if you know there is extra weight because of all-wheel drive couldn't you make the car lighter so it can compete with FWD on gas and accelration?
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Ima make a vid tonight of me goin from 0-60 and post it, that way we know for sure whats up.
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I had to get to a DJ gig rather quickly recently. The drive is a 3.5 hour trip under normal highway driving conditions. I had to made it 2.75 hours to save the gig and not get fired. This involved getting my AWD Kizashi up to 110 on a few long-distance straightaways. Totally stable. This would be a great autobahn car.

I was quite impressed with its stability, tracking, power, and noise levels at high speeds. As I approached the unnamed major metropolitan area, a gentleman in a slightly garish maroon and silver Acura TLX (with those kind of tacky black and chrome 20-inch rims that adorn so many modified Japanese sedan trainwrecks) decided that, since I was going so fast , it was obviously time to follow and race me. I'm just over here trying to save my job and this dubstep dealer douche with the slanted new era cap and shiny silver tint wants to get all Fast And Furious. Wonderful. As if I wasn't stressed out enough already just trying to convince all the Saturday morning shoppers doing 65mph to get the F*#K out of the fast lane.

Being forced by the NorthWest car-driving population's extreme aversion to proper usage of the left lane, this drive now involved a bit of dodging and weaving in and out of traffic, with rather spirited and strategic use of the paddle shifters. That took some getting used to, but I was able to start approximating what I would normally be doing with a 6-speed manual within a few minutes. No biggie. The Kizashi handled it quite gracefully and confidently, even at speeds approaching 90mph, and one fairly Ronin-like cut over to the left as an exit lane merged into the highway and flat bed behind me I guess decided he didn't like how awesome my Kizashi looks or something and wanted to reward me for it by cutting me off whenI tried to get over. more awesomeness.

This kind of driving, btw, is NOT something I do a lot. I gave up driving fast through traffic in high school. But this gig was make or break for a VERY good client and I couldn't not be there in time.

My point is, I suppose, I was able to lead, briefly get passed by, and then pass again, and leave long behind an Acura TLX with 2 more cylinders and 95 more HP at speeds over 100mph with the Kizashi, without really trying that hard. Any faster than 105 mph would have been stupid. It may not be speedy gonzalez off the line, but the AWD CVT is plenty fast for any kind of everyday highway or city driving. The power and speed are there if you need them.
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Well, glad you made it safe without any mishaps or encounters with John-Law. Either would have ruined your day big time.
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johnhenrydale wrote:I had to get to a DJ gig rather quickly recently. The drive is a 3.5 hour trip under normal highway driving conditions. I had to made it 2.75 hours to save the gig and not get fired. This involved getting my AWD Kizashi up to 110 on a few long-distance straightaways. Totally stable. This would be a great autobahn car.

I was quite impressed with its stability, tracking, power, and noise levels at high speeds. As I approached the unnamed major metropolitan area, a gentleman in a slightly garish maroon and silver Acura TLX (with those kind of tacky black and chrome 20-inch rims that adorn so many modified Japanese sedan trainwrecks) decided that, since I was going so fast , it was obviously time to follow and race me. I'm just over here trying to save my job and this dubstep dealer douche with the slanted new era cap and shiny silver tint wants to get all Fast And Furious. Wonderful. As if I wasn't stressed out enough already just trying to convince all the Saturday morning shoppers doing 65mph to get the F*#K out of the fast lane.

Being forced by the NorthWest car-driving population's extreme aversion to proper usage of the left lane, this drive now involved a bit of dodging and weaving in and out of traffic, with rather spirited and strategic use of the paddle shifters. That took some getting used to, but I was able to start approximating what I would normally be doing with a 6-speed manual within a few minutes. No biggie. The Kizashi handled it quite gracefully and confidently, even at speeds approaching 90mph, and one fairly Ronin-like cut over to the left as an exit lane merged into the highway and flat bed behind me I guess decided he didn't like how awesome my Kizashi looks or something and wanted to reward me for it by cutting me off whenI tried to get over. more awesomeness.

This kind of driving, btw, is NOT something I do a lot. I gave up driving fast through traffic in high school. But this gig was make or break for a VERY good client and I couldn't not be there in time.

My point is, I suppose, I was able to lead, briefly get passed by, and then pass again, and leave long behind an Acura TLX with 2 more cylinders and 95 more HP at speeds over 100mph with the Kizashi, without really trying that hard. Any faster than 105 mph would have been stupid. It may not be speedy gonzalez off the line, but the AWD CVT is plenty fast for any kind of everyday highway or city driving. The power and speed are there if you need them.
I'm here in the Mid-west (formerly NJ) and it always amazes me how many people don't understand the left lane. My blood pressure rises when I am stuck behind a car pacing the car next to them.
I also am not a weekend racer but it seems that every once and awhile someone wants to see want my car is made of.
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