Kizashi TPMS

murcod · Wed Jan 09, 2013 2:51 am

It's a good idea as many people just don't bother checking the basics on their vehicles. I would have liked to have it on my previous vehicle, which didn't come with a spare tyre- traveling out in the country was always a bit nerve wracking!

Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:32 pm

chazyouwin wrote:Those elsewhere may consider themselves lucky that they are not required to pay for a technology that might save only a few lives per year.

have a problem w/ being forced for to pay for the stupidity and laziness of others do we?......me 2.

bodhibro · Mon Feb 10, 2014 7:50 pm

Hi all, newbie here. I've had my '11 Kizashi SE for a year now. The only problems I've had have been with the tires. Three flats in 12 months and low pressure issues in between. I had one go out on me on Friday on the highway and it had to replaced with a new tire. I got that done and of course the TPMS service light stayed on. The tire place didn't have a "Suzuki scanning tool". So I take it to a dealership, and waited a couple of hours just to find out now there are three sensors that won't register so they want to replace them...I'm looking at a $300 bill...i have a warranty but my deductible is $300.

Looks like TPMS is the most annoying thing about these cars. I was planning on eventually swapping the stock wheels out with something cooler, I'll just have this problem again won't I?

I'm thinking of tell them to forget about replacing the sensors and just checking the tires myself every now and then the old school way with a gauge until I buy new wheels and then getting this TPMS bs solved.

This is the most expensive flat tire I've ever had.

~tc~ · Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:03 pm

The problem with your plan is that the TPMS warning will be on constantly ... Ad since it takes over the center display, it's hard to just ignore it.

You need to have the sensors in the car ... Some people mount them in a wheelbarrow tire and just carry to in the trunk.

I haven't heard many - if any - issues with the TPMS.

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SamirD · Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:09 pm

KIZFAN2 wrote:Plus with the frequent swapping of winter tires, you don't want to be messing around with sensors every time.

I think that's why they never enabled it for the Candian market. I wonder if there's a way to disable it for the US market then?

SamirD · Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:10 pm

bodhibro wrote:Hi all, newbie here. I've had my '11 Kizashi SE for a year now. The only problems I've had have been with the tires. Three flats in 12 months and low pressure issues in between. I had one go out on me on Friday on the highway and it had to replaced with a new tire. I got that done and of course the TPMS service light stayed on. The tire place didn't have a "Suzuki scanning tool". So I take it to a dealership, and waited a couple of hours just to find out now there are three sensors that won't register so they want to replace them...I'm looking at a $300 bill...i have a warranty but my deductible is $300.

Looks like TPMS is the most annoying thing about these cars. I was planning on eventually swapping the stock wheels out with something cooler, I'll just have this problem again won't I?

I'm thinking of tell them to forget about replacing the sensors and just checking the tires myself every now and then the old school way with a gauge until I buy new wheels and then getting this TPMS bs solved.

This is the most expensive flat tire I've ever had.

TPMS is a pain, but I did it myself for under $200 and without the dealership. Check out my experience:
http://www.kizashiclub.com/forum/viewto ... =28&t=2764

bodhibro · Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:46 pm

Thanks SamirD! That was an excellent thread on your findings, very informative.

I think I'll go pay the shop that replaced the tire another visit, and show them the PDF on how to get the car into relearn mode. If they aren't willing to try it or it doesn't work I might just buy the vt30 and do it myself.

bodhibro · Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:34 pm

Geez...I'm not trying to tell anyone how to do their job but some of these mechanics don't like getting information from customers. I'm just trying to get out of this as cheap as possible but peoples ego's are starting to flare up.

The tech at the auto shop said he can read all 4 sensors just fine with his vt55, but was unable to get the car into learning mode. He wrote down all 4 sensor serial numbers and the frequency at which he was able to read them with for me. His opinion is that if he can read them with the vt55 then they are good to go.

So I called Suzuki and the service manager maintains that if the car doesn't accept the sensors then they are bad and need to be replaced but he would get with a tech and call me back.

SamirD · Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:55 pm

bodhibro wrote:Thanks SamirD! That was an excellent thread on your findings, very informative.

I think I'll go pay the shop that replaced the tire another visit, and show them the PDF on how to get the car into relearn mode. If they aren't willing to try it or it doesn't work I might just buy the vt30 and do it myself.

You're welcome!

If you go the route of the vt30, PM me and I'll send you the firmware that worked for me.

SamirD · Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:05 pm

bodhibro wrote:Geez...I'm not trying to tell anyone how to do their job but some of these mechanics don't like getting information from customers. I'm just trying to get out of this as cheap as possible but peoples ego's are starting to flare up.

The tech at the auto shop said he can read all 4 sensors just fine with his vt55, but was unable to get the car into learning mode. He wrote down all 4 sensor serial numbers and the frequency at which he was able to read them with for me. His opinion is that if he can read them with the vt55 then they are good to go.

So I called Suzuki and the service manager maintains that if the car doesn't accept the sensors then they are bad and need to be replaced but he would get with a tech and call me back.

This is why TPMS sucks. Dealing with morons wasn't part of the process that they factored in.

If the vt55 can read the sensors, they're not bad. Ask the tech if they have the OBD connector for the vt55 or not. If they don't have it, they basically are doing the same thing you would be doing with a vt30, and have to manually get the car into relearn mode. Otherwise, a vt55 with the OBD cable would connect directly to the car and register the sensors. My guess is that they don't have the OBD connector or aren't using it right.

Here's what I would do.

Use the PDF to personally practice getting the car into relearn mode.

Once you can do it, take the car back to the shop and ask them if they'll re-trigger the sensors for you if you put the car in relearn mode.

Explain to them that this has been done by a car owner who personally owns a vt55 (don't tell them it is a vt30 or they'll use that as an excuse to say no), and tell them that you'll share how to do this so they can do other Suzukis (sx4 and others use the same relearn procedure) and make money.

If that won't work, I'd ask them how much it will cost to have one of their guys follow you into the parking lot with their vt55 and trigger the sensors when you tell them to. You can do the relearn in the parking lot in 5m, pay them, and be done with it. Then you can just order a vt30 when you need to change tires again, or maybe even a used vt55 if Suzuki USA has some more. It was only slightly more for a used vt55 vs a vt30--much better than the $1000 it usually goes for.