Hi everyone
Just picked up my 2011 kizashi sport today. Love it and looks great in red.
I'm installing my sons child seats and cannot figure out how to get the rear seatbelts to lock and not extend. My old Toyota and my parents mazdas all did this.
Is there something wrong with them or am I doing incorrectly
Dave
Rear seatbelts
I'm not a parent and have no idea how various child seats work, but the Kizashi has child seat anchors in the rear. They are located in the seat cushion (covered by a plastic cover that needs to be removed) and the top anchors are on the rear deck. I could be wrong, but it appears the anchoring system works independently of the rear seat belt. Maybe this is why the rear seat belts don't lock?
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Kuro, you are correct. The Kizashi uses the "latch" system and the anchors are where you stated. Any car seat that still requires the belt rather than the latch may be too old and one should consider purchasing a new one that uses the "latch" system. But then again, maybe there are some new ones that use the belts.
Thanks for the help. I should probably have mentioned that I am in Australia and the "latch" system has only just been made legal at the end of last year. The car seats I have are only 1 and 3 years old. If the belts cannot lock then I might need to get some new child seats.
The other cars locked the belt when it was fully extend and couldn't be extended anymore untill the belt has fully retracted again.
Dave
The other cars locked the belt when it was fully extend and couldn't be extended anymore untill the belt has fully retracted again.
Dave
Owner's Manual pages 2-46 adn 2-46. I think this is what you may be looking for...
1) If you install the child restraint system in the rear right or left seat, remove the head restraint (1) or raise the head
restraint upright and make it lock at the highest position.
2) Pull all of the remaining webbing out of the retractor. You will hear a click, which means that the emergency locking
retractor (ELR) has converted to function as an automatic locking retractor (ALR).
3) Allow the extra webbing to retract, and pull the webbing toward the retractor to take up any slack. Make sure that the
lap portion of the belt is tight around the child restraint system and the shoulder portion of the belt is positioned so that it
cannot interfere with the child’s head or neck.
4) Make sure that the retractor has converted to the ALR mode by trying to pull webbing out of the retractor. If the
retractor is in the ALR mode, the belt will be locked.
5) Try moving the child restraint system in all directions, to make sure it is securely installed. If you need to tighten the belt,
pull more webbing toward the retractor.
When you unbuckle the seat belt and allow it to retract to a certain length, the retractor will automatically revert back to the normal
ELR mode.
1) If you install the child restraint system in the rear right or left seat, remove the head restraint (1) or raise the head
restraint upright and make it lock at the highest position.
2) Pull all of the remaining webbing out of the retractor. You will hear a click, which means that the emergency locking
retractor (ELR) has converted to function as an automatic locking retractor (ALR).
3) Allow the extra webbing to retract, and pull the webbing toward the retractor to take up any slack. Make sure that the
lap portion of the belt is tight around the child restraint system and the shoulder portion of the belt is positioned so that it
cannot interfere with the child’s head or neck.
4) Make sure that the retractor has converted to the ALR mode by trying to pull webbing out of the retractor. If the
retractor is in the ALR mode, the belt will be locked.
5) Try moving the child restraint system in all directions, to make sure it is securely installed. If you need to tighten the belt,
pull more webbing toward the retractor.
When you unbuckle the seat belt and allow it to retract to a certain length, the retractor will automatically revert back to the normal
ELR mode.
Well that's interesting. I've scanned the relevant section in my Aussie owner's manual (including the pages you referenced) and there is nothing I can find mentioning about the "ALR" mode. I've also got a child seat fitted and the belts would not ratchet when fully extended.LPSISRL wrote:Owner's Manual pages 2-46 adn 2-46. I think this is what you may be looking for...
1) If you install the child restraint system in the rear right or left seat, remove the head restraint (1) or raise the head
restraint upright and make it lock at the highest position.
2) Pull all of the remaining webbing out of the retractor. You will hear a click, which means that the emergency locking
retractor (ELR) has converted to function as an automatic locking retractor (ALR).
3) Allow the extra webbing to retract, and pull the webbing toward the retractor to take up any slack. Make sure that the
lap portion of the belt is tight around the child restraint system and the shoulder portion of the belt is positioned so that it
cannot interfere with the child’s head or neck.
4) Make sure that the retractor has converted to the ALR mode by trying to pull webbing out of the retractor. If the
retractor is in the ALR mode, the belt will be locked.
5) Try moving the child restraint system in all directions, to make sure it is securely installed. If you need to tighten the belt,
pull more webbing toward the retractor.
When you unbuckle the seat belt and allow it to retract to a certain length, the retractor will automatically revert back to the normal
ELR mode.
What's the part number on the rear of your owner's handbook? Mine is 99011-57LS2-01E dated February 2011.
David
This would appear to indicate Suzuki has fitted the minimum required spec for seat belts under Australian law.
We've scored the basic "Emergency Locking Retractor" (ELR) type.
Thank you Suzuki Australia for apparently choosing to save money over fitting child seat friendly ELR/ ALR type seat belts in a family car!
There's a bit more here:
We've scored the basic "Emergency Locking Retractor" (ELR) type.
Thank you Suzuki Australia for apparently choosing to save money over fitting child seat friendly ELR/ ALR type seat belts in a family car!
There's a bit more here:
From http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2006C ... 65078535114.2.2. Type of 'Seat Belt Assembly'
4.2.2.0. The type of 'Seat Belt Assembly' to be fitted shall be determined by the 'Anchorage’ system required for that seating position accordance with ADR 5/… “Anchorages for Seat Belts and Child Restraints”.
4.2.2.1. A `Lap-Sash Belt' or 'Harness Belt' shalt:
4.2.2.1.1. when fitted to the driver's seating position incorporate an 'Emergency Locking Retractor’;
4.2.2.1.2. when fitted to the other front 'Outboard Seating Position', incorporate an 'Emergency Locking Retractor' or an 'Automatic Length Adjusting and Locking Retractor';
4.2.2.1.3. when fitted to an 'Outboard Seating Position' of a 'Rear Seat' incorporate an `Emergency Locking Retractor' or an `Automatic Length Adjusting and Locking Retractor';
David
It appears we missed out on belts with that function.
I checked all three of my seat belts when I first fitted the child seat and none would ratchet. A search on Google indicates the Kizashi isn't the only Aussie vehicle that comes without the function - I found info on VW Golfs not having it and my previous 2006 Renault belts wouldn't do it either. I found that strange at the time as Renault have been building some of the highest safety rated vehicles for many years.
It should have been mandatory here in Australia given the antiquated child seat laws we've had (ISOFix was illegal until recently.)
I checked all three of my seat belts when I first fitted the child seat and none would ratchet. A search on Google indicates the Kizashi isn't the only Aussie vehicle that comes without the function - I found info on VW Golfs not having it and my previous 2006 Renault belts wouldn't do it either. I found that strange at the time as Renault have been building some of the highest safety rated vehicles for many years.
It should have been mandatory here in Australia given the antiquated child seat laws we've had (ISOFix was illegal until recently.)
David