Air Filter Cost?

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bootymac
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Thanks for the information Remav!

This ISO 5011 test shows that paper filters perform quite similarly but I'm curious if the fuzzy filter media makes a difference

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Sorry to revive a dead thread, but does anyone know how the Fram air intake filters compare with the other filters in bootymac's chart?

Azumi's coming up on 29K miles and I was going to swap out the air filters when I change the oil here in the near future.
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All the paper filters are 98% and above. Remember, they're going to filter better once they get a little bit dirty. I can't imagine that it really makes any difference. Myself, I'll stick with the K&N and take the free hp.
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Just took a look @ RockAuto and found a PRONTO PA6123 for only $5.90.
Anyone use one?
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redmed wrote:Just took a look @ RockAuto and found a PRONTO PA6123 for only $5.90.
Anyone use one?
No, but be careful with the low-end brands like Pronto. Some people have complained that cheap air filters don't have good fitting gaskets therefore the air filter housing won't seal properly. This can then lead to noticeable air intake noise and unfiltered air entering the engine.
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KuroNekko wrote:
redmed wrote:Just took a look @ RockAuto and found a PRONTO PA6123 for only $5.90.
Anyone use one?
No, but be careful with the low-end brands like Pronto. Some people have complained that cheap air filters don't have good fitting gaskets therefore the air filter housing won't seal properly. This can then lead to noticeable air intake noise and unfiltered air entering the engine.
Just installed a Pronto filter. The gasket is thicker than the one on the Suzuki filter. I took the gasket off the Pronto filter and installed it and took a 30 mile trip and noticed no difference in intake noise. After the trip I inspected the air box and found no evidence of a air leak. It probably was fine without the gasket but tried to install it again with the gasket. After carefully positioning the gasket I successfully installed the filter with the gasket.
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Besides woodie anyone else use the k&n filter...I used to on my civic and kizzy and then bought oem thinking the filter was causing hesitation in my civic and didn't seem to.fix the issue...think it's more internal been using only mobil gas and seems to help. But are the k&ns really that bad and are the test/data truthfully reliable meaning isn't a paper media company etc doing these test making it bias? I didn't notice any dirt/debris inside air box with the k&n, but I did notice the gasket is thinner but not sure if created rattle.
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K&N's are race filters period. They keep bugs and other large debris from being ingested and that's about it. They're meant for free air flow on performance engines that are torn down regularly. I had one on a dodge pick-up many years ago and the inside of the throttle body(and everything else past the filter) was filthy, coated with the same road grime that coats everything under the hood of an everyday daily driven car. MAF sensor and the like don't appreciate all that crap coating them which leads to all sorts of engine management issues. Past that, all that grime enters directly in to the combustion chamber. I pulled the throttle body off and the intake was a filthy mess when it should have been nearly white-glove clean. That was my first and last K&N type filter on a daily driver. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to surmise what that does to the internals over the life of the engine.

Stick with cheap paper filters and replace more often if perceived performance gains are a concern.
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I put them on everything I own, never had a problem. Aerio has 130 K miles on it, 110 of those with a K&N and I've never done a thing except oil changes, plugs, brakes, and tires.
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To each his own.
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